the mavs just choked in that series and game 7 in the 2007 series vs. pistons, the cavs bench went huge in that game. the cavs bench outscored the pistons bench 43-15 with daniel gibson going 5-5 from behind the arc so lebron still had solid contribution from the players around him. you still need a team around you and yao/mcgrady didn't have a solid team around them. even kobe and shaq (not comparing t-mac to kobe or yao to shaq) needed great performances by derek fisher and robert horry in their championship run
ok, i'll live with the fact you don't read anyone else's post except for mine. i'll make it easier for you to read other posts.
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Now you are comparing Lebron to Mcgrady -.-. Both Mcgrady and Yao are "Superstars" Where was Yao taking over games ? Why doe sit have to be Mcgrady taking over the games ? Once again they both have failed for the Rockets.
What's your point? That you have no evidence, no argument? All you can do is attempt to troll? I'm surprised you even have the privilege to make threads.
my evidence that Kobe > Tmac? sorry no mvps or championship images found for t-mac. hahaha, I'm a 99er dude. we're OG.
http://thelakersnation.com/blog/200...itle-kobe-toughest-player-to-guard-in-league/ Sports Radio Interviews: Tracy McGrady joined 790 The Zone to discuss how determined he is to come back, his pick for the finals, and the most difficult player to guard His pick for the title: “Lakers. (Host: That easy, again?) It’s no knock on Cleveland, I think Cleveland’s gonna get there… Cleveland to me is really not that good. If you take what the Celtics did last year… You knew, they were either gonna get to the finals, or they were gonna win it. You can’t really say the same thing about the Cavaliers. Although, they had the best record in the league this year, a lot of people like, ‘Okay, they havin’ a great year, but we don’t know if they can win the championship.’ They really didn’t do anything on the road with the elite teams in the league, they lost, they had a bad record when they went to face the elite teams in the league. I think they’re a good team, but I don’t they’re ready to take the next step.” The toughest player to stop: “No doubt. Kobe. No doubt. The man is just a fierce competitor, he tries to rip your heart out no matter who he plays night in and night out. ‘Bron is one of them guys, he gets buckets, but he also is an unselfish player. Kobe? Nah. He trying to take your heart. He gonna get it. And, he’s gonna shoot 30 or 35 times to get it.” http://www.lakers101.com/2009/04/23/tracy-mcgrady-may-be-out-but-he-still-has-his-pick-for-mvp/ He was on the Jim Rome Show yesterday — a radio show out in Los Angeles — and gave some insight into Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. TMAC On this year’s MVP: He basically said Kobe could and should get it every year and that he was surprised last year was his first one. He said that this year’s MVP will go to LeBron because of the way the media and league market and advertise the guy. It just seems like it’s his year, and he is having a great year. But, with a year like Kobe is having, he could get it every year. TMAC On Kobe and LeBron’s Leadership He said that LeBron leads in a different way. He is a team player who likes to have fun. He gets it done in his own way. With Kobe, there is no play time on the court. He is out to take your heart and he’s showing that from start to finish. When he sees a weakness in a guy, he’s trying to step on their chest and turn it. TMAC On Teenage Kobe He also said that when he was a rookie (Kobe’s 2nd yr) that he was friends with Kobe but that he was crazy. He told McGrady, “I’m telling you, I’m better than Mike right now, I’m going to be better than Mike.” As a teenage, he honestly believed he was better than Mike. From that point on, TMAC knew that guy was striving for greatness.
Yes. So even you admit KObe is great. And T-Mac has performed in the playoffs to a similar level to Kobe. Why is that so hard to understand?
Looks like the thread has been derailed for the most part, but by looking at the votes it appears the majority of fans point towards the roleplayers being the problem Not Mcgrady :grin:
This^ I don't understand how you can single out Mcgrady from Yao. They were put together to go far, something they never achieved. When discussing one you can not bring up the other.
The TMAC + YAO era was unsuccessfull due to constant injuries. I think they could have went deep in the playoffs with both healthy
It was always Tmac+Yao era not Yao+Tmac era. Tmac was the superstar whom we traded assets for. It was his team, he was the captain, and he bears the most responsibility. Remember, it was "on him." Yao was also responsible but not on the same level. He was the #2 man until recently. As unfair as that sounds, if Tmac and Yao won a championship during their run, Tmac would've also gotten most of the credit.
Well sure, the first time Tracy came to Houston he was the main guy. And he probably was #1 option for the 1st two seasons here. But once Yao started developing so quickly (remember his monster start to the 06-07 season?) Tracy kinda slipped to the 2nd option because it was even better for the team. But I agree. In the playoffs you always expect more from McGrady than from Yao.
That was only in the regular season. Its always Tmac and Yao because Yao Ming never became the number 1 option during playoffs. He was always injured, and in the years that he wasn't Boozer and Okur made a fool out of him.
