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Why did the leader of the ALT-RIGHT Richard Spencer openly support Joe Biden?

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  1. HardenVolumeOne

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    https://www.newsweek.com/richard-spencer-joe-biden-trump-maga-1527141

    and why did the mainstream media not cover this

    White nationalist Richard Spencer has said he will be backing Democratic candidate Joe Biden in November's election after previously distancing himself from Donald Trump.

    Spencer, who was one of the key figureheads of the alt-right movement, tweeted how he is "on Team Joe" on Monday, adding in a self-made campaign slogan, "Liberals are clearly more competent."

    In a series of tweets, Spencer further explained his reasoning for backing Biden.

    "The MAGA/Alt-Right moment is over. I made mistakes; Trump is an obvious disaster; but mainly the paradigm contained flaws that we now are able to perceive. And it needs to end," Spencer wrote. "So be patient. We'll have another day in the sun. We need to recover and return in a new form."
     
  2. HardenVolumeOne

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    Polls and evidence point to Trump signing into law the FIRST STEP ACT as the moment in which white males began to distance themselves from trump

    The parties were reswitching for the first time since 1965 and the country put a halt to that by having to cheat trump out of a well deserved win to keep him out of office. Meanwhile a real racist and segregationist was elected president

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/04/despi...inorities-than-any-gop-candidate-in-60-years/

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/nov/14/joe-biden-trump-black-latino-republicans

    White men swung to Biden. Trump made gains with black and Latino voters. Why?
     
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  3. DonatelloLimestone

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    Lol, the south carolina African American community behidn clyburn carried biden before which he looked liked he'd be embarassed in the primaries, as he has been before.

    Maybe dumbass voting blocks just will take whoever their team tells them to. Like pretending trump is a fiscal conservative or not blantantly lying to you guys, or that biden has evovled adn now will be on the right side of history with so many terrible decisions in his past, hes only reaching his prime in 80..right?

    lol the tribalism is sad, if the only defense if the other guy sucks...you got played.
     
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  4. HardenVolumeOne

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    the gen exers and baby boomers failed this new young generation of african americans

    Overall, exit polls indicated that 32 to 35 percent of Latinos voted for the president. And young black men are gravitating to the GOP at a remarkable pace (given the baseline).

    It turns out that minorities aren’t so infatuated with the brand of unrepentant progressive “woke-ism” now peddled by the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wing of the Democratic Party. The political, legal, media, corporate and academic establishments have gone all-in on the woke agenda, peddling a toxic brew of intersectionality, socialism lite and Black Lives Matter anarchism. Latinos and many blacks aren’t buying it. As one Twitter wit quipped, Democrats may have won the “Latinx vote,” but they didn’t fare well with actual Latinos.

    The cognitive dissonance on the part of our bicoastal ruling class is, and will be over the ensuing months, astonishing. The ruling elite is incapable of processing the notion that the MAGA hat-clad Bad Orange Man is not, in fact, an avatar for racist whites and a harbinger of impending fascism.
     
  5. Rileydog

    Rileydog Contributing Member

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    If you still support trump after the insurrection, after his denial of covid, after lafayette square, after his anti science dumbassery, after UV lights and Clorox, after he tried to coerce Ukraine for dirt on Biden, after his four year **** show tearing down democracy…

    none of the stuff you posted about Biden matters. None of the stuff you posted about how minorities are allegedly moving toward the Republican Party matters. You have difficulty with facts and care about your side winning more than democracy itself.
     
  6. DonatelloLimestone

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    brotha, did you see who the bicoastal rulling class is? Have you met Donald trump, hes been begging to get int that club for years. You hear him be pretty open abotu wanting to see so and so in jail, but boy another rich and powerful person in Ghislane Maxwell, he folded to i wish her well and can't comment...how about that?

    Or how abot with MBS...he riled against irrelevant to us wars and then sent TROOPS just for saudi saying they paid for it.

    How abotu the people he himself appointed to lead his cabinet positions/ He ran on hiring the best, he put in Betsy Devos, he put in Scott Pruit who had ot leave for spending tens of thousands on himsel, he put in rex tillerson who called him a moron and then trump called him a moron(he hcose morons?), of course importnatly Tillerson said he found out JAred Kushner was running state meetings behind his back without his knowledge with high level foreign diplomants...so now you have a literal bicoastal elite, you know the lori loughin college scnadal? that was Jared kushners first mark. His father with no connection to harvard donated 2 million so his C student sons could get on. Then Jared bought a magazine, right before the digital media age. Then he boguht a high prize manhattan skyline to make his marki n manhattan, right before the crash. In fat he was due on his payments before a qatari group bailed him out while he was meeting them for govertnment work...go figure...almost like Ivanka getting chinese patents while negotiations with china were going on or even getting 100 billion from saudi for womens empowerment, the exact thing trump complained hilary did. .​


    So I get youre issues with the democrats, think many people don't feel rerpresented with this polarzed party situation and hopefulyl more independents grow for it so it doesnt look like a foxx/cnn world that helps them, politicians, but not America
     
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    This reminds of me of when Rockets Legend was going ham in the D&D. Good times
     
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    Spencer is an opportunist race grifter. Needs to be ignored.
     
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    i mean what can you say about someone that suck harden's dick non-stop

    **** biden btw.
     
  10. HardenVolumeOne

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    If you believe all of those people there at the capitol were trumpers and not white anarchacist groups. I got nothing to tell you to convince you otherwise, their was trumpers there sure, but their was also white antifa members being mixed in there pretending to be trumpers

    and lets not talk about an inserruction when the entire country from minnesota, to seattle, to georgia was on fire and burned to the intolorent left and their Autonomous Zones
     
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  11. HardenVolumeOne

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    nope spencer is a true white nationalist and white supremacist just like the democrats of the past who disavowed of trump, after trump kept inviting black people to the white house

    biden is the real white supremacist and thats why trump lost support among white male voters and gained with minorities
     
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    If not all. The VAST MAJORITY of the people arrested have all proven to be Trump supporters. That sounds like complete BS with no evidence to help cloud the fact of what happened and obfuscate. It’s comical to try and say it as well as if Trump did not say go there and do it. So tired and pathetic that people can’t own up to it.
     
  13. Dairy Ashford

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    You didn't write this mostaccioli, bud.
     
  14. HardenVolumeOne

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    sure lets just trust what the mainstream media says
     
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    copied and pasted it
     
  16. peleincubus

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    I haven’t had cable for over a decade.
    Listen to yourself man. Arguing yourself in circles. Denying simple logic and reason. If there was proof of left wing activists at that rally it would be like gold and reported by many that would want to prove that.
     
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    Why do antifa members cover their faces with black masks when they were the main ones looting, breaking windows and setting buildings on fire. But it was black people who were peacefully protesting that were blamed. The images from mainstream media would be fizzy and all you would see is a black image .. most viewers trying to make out the image would think it was a black person without second guessing. Antifa are racist white liberals of the past, if they werent why not use your real face or a diferent color mask. Either way i dont support leftists anyway, but i wish my people could see that the left doesnt care about them and only wants them to be a stepping stone for other groups to advance. Whether it be the dreamers, the lgbt, and now asians. The left has no intrest in black people if for nothing more than us being a loyal consistent voting block to pass their filthy agenda

    And it always bothers me how these police involved shooting always happen around election time, because the left knows black folk are emotional and they play on that. The funny thing is while it may have worked in the past its no longer working on this new generation of black boys/men who arent even accepted by their community. And have gone their own way, Black Men overall HAVE NO ALLIES, and many of us younger brothas understand that now. We are starting to vote with our intrests in mind, first and foremost. It’s basically whichever party is offering the better deal that’s what we are taking
     
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    As someone who is not a black man, this sentiment makes very good sense to me. I have just a few black friends and I have asked them this question - if you didn’t have family ties here would you choose to live in America as a black man? Its a question that to some extent reflects the point you are making, that black men don’t seem to have political allies.

    But as to your larger question of which side is offering the better deal, consider this as you ponder a legitimate question:

    - what political affiliation were the non-black people who marched in connection with the murders of george floyd, Ahmad arbery, and others.

    - how did political leaders react to the murders of floyd, arbery, etc,? Did they choose to condemn the peaceful protesters and lump them in with the bad actors? Did they choose to give the police the benefit of the doubt or call for review of policing? Did they choose to blame or denigrate the murdered or murderers?

    - what policies or practices help the black community/black men? Assistance with college/community college? Assistance with pre-K education to level the developmental playing field? Representation in federal appointments - cabinet positions, agencies, judges? How about tax policy?

    - is environmental justice and fairness important to black communities? Drinking water, infrastructure, housing in urban communities? Do those matter and what party is passing or advocating laws on these issues? What party is against these measures?

    I am not a black man, and do not pretend to understand what is important to you. But I do think the sentiment you raised above is a fair and right one. The question becomes … what party is actually offering you the better deal?

    What side is acting more to the betterment of the black community? Who is giving lip service and making a show, but none of the actual policies that help the black community are actually pushed or passed.

    Lastly, I would ask you, setting aside all the rhetoric and show of politics, what policies or programs would you want to see to help the black community or black men specifically?
     
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    Then he asked how to delete his post history...lol.
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    92% of the black vote in 2020 went to Biden. If you're saying black people are voting their self-interest, well the overwhelming majority thought it lay with the Democrats on this one. You can parse it out as you like with stats about the young vote vs the old or rate of change, but... 92%. And their turnout was up too.

    Try to seem numerous with your numerous posts, but the truth is being in the 8 percent makes yours a pretty tiny minority view. Being in the minority doesn't mean you're wrong, but you keep trying to speak for black people and the stats say you don't speak for them.
     
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