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Why did Juwan Howard get a DNP?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rikesh316, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. Vengeance

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    There's no way that anyone could honestly say that Juwan Howard couldn't have helped the team tonight. I like Scott Padgett a lot, but there's a reason he's never been more than a third-string NBA-er. But Howard has been a very nice player of his career. I've never been a big Juwan Howard fan, but there's no reason (barring some weird thing like a trade) he shouldn't be playing at least some minutes. He would've at least scored some off the bench and maybe brought a bit less sucking than the rest of the team brought to the court.
     
  2. tinman

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    There must a reason why he has a DNP. Even Moochie Norris doesn't get DNPed.
     
  3. hooroo

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    juwan for a couple of starters from the bobcats. the bobcats are actually looking good. they look like they only need the inclusion of one more high calibre player to partner okafur get them a few more W's.
     
  4. ed_tx

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    Juwan is getting DNP'd b/c Tinman paid JVG off.
     
  5. Kilgore Trout

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    The way Howard has been handled has been very confusing to me. When the trade went down I saw him as a solid starter with Taylor coming in off the bench for a post presence when Yao was out. He is an established veteran that has is used to starting and geting the majority of minutes at that position.

    His early season stuggles could easily be attributed to him not being used to the role of coming off the bench and playing with the second team and his vastly reduced minutes. When he does get playing time he seems out of synch with whats going on around him. Seems like that would point to him being uncomfortable with his role.

    Just doesnt seem logical is all.
     
  6. tinman

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    Klingon,

    JVG's logic is correct. Mo Taylor is the more athletic player, better scorer , and has the most tenure on this team. Juwan has been stinking up the court. Then again the whole team has. DnP Juwan was a logical choice.

    Last Year: Yao excelled with Cato. This year he's struggling with our Fs and PGs.
     
  7. Surfguy

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    I don't care what any of you say. The fact that JH hasn't played a lick the past 2 games is beyond ridiculous. I don't think you can point the finger at him as if he is the problem. JH can score and rebound. He is needed in the line-up...especially since our bench only had 4 points last night. You would think Motay's numbers would go way up with all his extra playing time and they have not. A player like JH has no business being a DNP two games in a row. If were not going to use him, then trade him.
     
  8. Charvo

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    DNP-CDs kill player trade values.
     
  9. Charvo

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    DNP-CDs for Juwan are ludicrous.
     
  10. tinman

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    did you know this guy is cursed?
    Juwan is the Ring of Doom and Van Gundy is Golum.
    Remember that first dude with Ring of Doom who got knocked off in the river? That was the washington Wizards (no Gandalf).
     
  11. Surfguy

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    Those stats tell me that if JH were starting, he got around 30 minutes a game, and he got more field goal attempts...then he may put up some better scoring numbers than MT. Motay does appear to be the better rebounder but we know JH can rebound.

    Maybe JH should start and Motay can come off the bench? I like Motay off the bench. It seems to be more of an impact for him versus him starting. JH apparently shoots for a higher field goal percentage than Motay does. Motay has been an overall disappointment in my eyes. Those are a bunch of weak stats for someone getting upwards of 30 minutes a game. JH is maybe getting 18 minutes a game. We need consistent offensive production out of this position and the fact is we are not getting it.

    I dunno what the answer is. It may not be Mo or Juwan. They both have their problems.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    Neither one is the answer, but you can't really do much worse than Mo's been doing lately.

    I can't fathom why of the two, though, JVG went with Mo Taylor in the first place (the outside shooting PF concept is stupid because, Mo Taylor can't really shoot from the outside), and further, why bench Juwan.

    Clearly, Padgett is giving us a spark, but in a strictly Mo vs. Juwan argument, I think it's time for Juwan to get that starting spot.
     
  13. tinman

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    Juwan has sucked worsed than Mo. That's why Mo starts.
     
  14. Surfguy

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    Look at the overall career stats for both Mo and Juwan. Juwan has put up 17 ppg and 7 rpg his whole career when starting. Compare that with Mo's zig zag up and down career. Juwan is clearly more productive in a starting role than Mo is.
     
  15. tinman

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    I dont care if Juwan averages 100pts a game his career. Its about
    THIS YEAR.
    Juwan sucks. At least JVG and the coaching staff understand that and benched his brick throwing self in favor of Padgett.
     
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    I would imagine that this benching is due to player strife.
    He is probably the guy who confrunted gumby
     
  17. Surfguy

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    Your logic is flawed. Starters get more minutes per game. Juwan hasn't had that. Therefore, he has had no chance to repeat his career numbers. Your argument is one based on...what again...oh...he sucks. Right.
     
  18. tinman

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    You want to argue with me on Juwan???

    Name me one winning team (FULL SEASON) that Juwan has been on.
    Tell me the records pre and post Juwan of his last teams INCLUDING THE ROCKETS.

    Ok Surfguy,
    what did JVG :

    a. NOT start Juwan
    b. Demoted him to DNP
     
  19. tinman

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    Also, if Juwan was go great why was he included in the trade for Tmac after only ONE YEAR with the Magic?
    They could have easily just done Cuttino and Steve for Tmac. Why was Juwan included?

    Answer:

    Sometimes you need to get extra crap to get what you want.

    You are a fat kid, you dont need any more food. However, at Mc Donald's, you need to supersize your meal in order to get the Monopoly pieces.

    fat kid=Rockets.
     

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