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Why couldn't we get Mo Williams?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotballa, Feb 10, 2015.

  1. knucklehead3321

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    Not debating that, he shot bad...really bad, but that was over the course of what 8 games can you really judge a player over 8 games is my point. Hes typically a better shooter, portland was a bad fit for him he had a bad stretch, but compare that to everything else hes done in his career.
     
  2. FTW Rockets FTW

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    While P Bev was stinking up the joint offensively (as on most occassions) and Pringles was cheer leader and JET trying to run PG, wouldn't have Mo Williams been of great use?

    I still can't believe we didn't address a glaring need even witha stop gap solution like Mo.
     
  3. knucklehead3321

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    I truly believe if mo had not been traded days before the deadline we would have got him, morey and everyone here was so sure we would get dragic, he got snatched up before we could get him. The thing that bothers me is we could have gotten mo for terry and second round pick, and still chased dragic. I feel like I was the only one who knew were not going to get dragic, or we would have done so much earlier. I also knew to get dragic we would have had to loose alot of depth, with no guarantee we could keep him, I don't feel like hes a max player and I think morey felt that way also, but dragic feels otherwise. So dragic could have ended up being a highly expensive stop gap and mo could have been a very cheap one.
     
  4. J Sizzle

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    This is gonna be one of those threads that gets bumped after nearly every game, isn't it?
     
  5. knucklehead3321

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    LOL Probably, I'm getting sick of talking about it, I guess I just can't let it go, I'm just salty about it, I guess. I wanted mo from day one, I still dont understand why we traded for prigioni or mcdaniels... I would have rather just stuck with our squad. Canaan might not have contributed this year but he had more promise than a 38 yr old prgioni. And who knows if we even keep mcdaniels he's hardly getting any PT, and hes unrestricted after the season.
     
  6. J.R.

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    Does not move the needle. Not a difference maker. By the way, who needs Mo Williams when you have brickmaster1 and Pablo ****ing Prigioni?

    <PRE>SEASON TEAM GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
    '14-'15 CHA 11 11 35.5 7.3-16.8 .432 2.7-7.5 .366 4.0-4.5 .880 0.4 1.9 2.3 8.5 0.2 0.8 2.0 2.7 21.3</PRE>


    Didn't even have to be Mo Williams. You brought in no other worthy PG, with all due respect to Pablo Prigioni. Hell, you brought in Prigioni and aren't even playing him.
     
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  7. bulkatron

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    Depends on which Mo Williams.

    Prigioni has been completely awful since we traded for him. Mo Williams has been a horrendous defender for most of his career, and his value is dictated by how good he is offensively that year. On Charlotte, he is lights out. On Minny, he was awful. Probably better than Pablo, but awful. Beverley, as bad as he was yesterday, as frustrating as he can be, is still a better option than Mo.
     
  8. hotballa

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    Are you serious? Mo is 20 and 8 and beverly is better? Really? But heres the bigger rub, it is IRRELEVANT. Mo off the bench is immensely better than anything else we have. If you want to hang onto the corpse of wolverine because of his supposed compatibility with harden (i.e. he sucks too much on offense to get in hardens way), THAT IS FINE.
     
  9. knucklehead3321

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    I wouldn't say horrendous defensively but not good either. In minny he was asked to take a backseat and let the young guys develop so I dont think he could really be judged alot on that remember he did set a franchise high in scoring for minny, he was capable of doing alot more than he did, but that was not asked of him. IMO that speaks alot to his character being he was in a contract year and sacrificed getting a larger contract in the off season. In Charlotte he was asked to score and he's doing that well. My point is he does what is needed and asked the team comes first to him. I felt with mo and bev running the PG you could have gotten offense from one and defense from the other they are 2 different players that I feel would have complemented each others games.
     
  10. bulkatron

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    He's been -3 DBPM for most of his career. I would qualify that as pretty horrendous. Again, off the bench as an offensive spark, he could be OK.

    He is putting up ridiculous numbers in Charlotte that are a marked improvement from most of his career. That version of Mo, I take over Pat any day. As a backup PG, in Lin's role last year, I take him hands down over Prigioni. No question. Given how little he cost, I would take that chance in a heartbeat. But as a starter, having to guard the best PGs in the world (Westbrook, Paul, Curry, Conley, Lillard) I wouldn't trust him. As someone who has, despite his offense, only had 2 (and 1/8 if you count Charlotte this year) seasons posting a positive BPM, I wouldn't trust him.

    As bad as Bev is, the numbers don't lie. He's a plus player, even if marginally so. That makes him better than someone who can't guard a traffic cone. Even if Mo gets 20, it doesn't matter if Russ burns him for 50.
     
  11. vator

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    Remember when the Rockets had too many good point guards? Now we don't have any! LMAO!!!

    *Note: Couldn't decide whether to leave this little rant here or in the PB is garbage thread. Interchangeable discussion at the moment.

    Honestly, I'd like to see Methuselah Prigioni get some run. How much worse could he be than what we've been running out there?
     
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    Im sure Morey tried his best and he knew this. He is a humble guy imho. We cant have them all. They are 29 other teams out there. In Morey we trust. Im sure this offseasin Morey is going to net us an all star pg
     
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    IS THIS THREAD
     
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    STILL BEING BUMPED
     
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    Beverley
     
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    Prigioni

    :grin:
     
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  20. knucklehead3321

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    I dont know that we need an all star PG...harden controls the offense too much not too many all star PGS want to play with that. It's too late in the season now but sometimes I wonder why we dont experiment with harden playing point and get a solid 2 guard who can hit open shots and play D. No disrespect but I don't think morey tried his best with mo...he was a backup plan and we missed out. Im a big morey fan, but this trade deadline he flopped.We have a good trading relationship with minny, terry and a second rounder would have got it done. To the others this thread keeps getting bumped because alot of us know mo would have been cheap, and solid for us and we're still salty.
     

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