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Why aren't OUR bigs meeting with Hakeem?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by woodtee, Aug 18, 2012.

  1. AFS

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    This is the correct answer.

    So are you implying that Dream doesn't love the game or the Rockets just cause he hasn't been working out with Rockets players?
     
  2. woodtee

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    Yes, I can see h the rookies can't afford it right now, but the Rockets organization can. I really don't think Hakeem is turning down clients bc they are not "worthy" of his time. I think the superstars are just so committed to greatness, they value what he bring to the table. I just wish Morey could negotiate some of Haleems time to devote to their bigs. I know it seems that the young guys don't seem ready to do his complex moves, but I really don't think that's the case. Young kids were copying his moves all throughout Houston during those championship years. They really wouldn't be that tough to learn... Especially by legit NBA players.
     
  3. tinman

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    Do laker fans expect Jerry west to teach players how to shoot?
    do they ask Kareem to show people how to sky hook?
    Does Jordan have to teach bulls guards how to drive?

    No nor do their fans expect it.

    This shows how much lack of confidence certain fans have with the team and players.
    Also as Herrera said we have mchale who's a hall of tamer.
    also shows the incredible lack of Nba history.
     
  4. tinman

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    You know this also shows no faith in our players and coaching staff.
    Let's wait to see if they play basic basketball before they learn how to dream shake.

    If I were dream and someone asked me to help the team, I would tell them look up in the rafters kid.
     
  5. Arthurprescott2

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    Well... Hakeem does teach the Laker bigs though none of them have been able to learn the sky hook because of its insanely high level of difficulty.
     
  6. Geaux Rockets

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    Our bigs don't go to Hakeem because learning McHale's post game instead will be more beneficial to them. Outside of a couple of the athletic freak bigs in the league, your average post player has no business trying Hakeem's moves. You've gotta have incredible quickness, agility, and balance/body control to do the moves Hakeem did, not to mention that the footwork and shots themselves aren't easy to learn even going through them slow and under control. Conversely, McHale can teach them an easier set of moves that sadly most NBA post players never bothered to master. You've gotta crawl before you can walk and you've gotta be damn good at the basics of post play before you can get anything out of what Dream would teach you. And our bigs, outside of Montiejunas, don't have any quality post moves right now.
     
  7. RedRedemption

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    Javale McGee has the potential to be a superstar. None of our Rockets bigs aside from maybe D-Mo do.
     
  8. imarealballer

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    LMFAO!
     
  9. Arthurprescott2

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    Sorry, meant to type Kareem.
     
  10. roxxy

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    Javale McGee does have the talent to be a a very good player in this league. He has to be one of the most fascinating players in the league. His body is up there with Lebron in the sense that you think to yourself, “How the hell does this person exist? How does someone have that much height, that much strength and that much speed?” And yet unlike Lebron, he’s yet to put it all together. If he ever does, the games he had against the Lakers might become not his norm, but much more common occurrences.
     
  11. roxxy

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    And no I am not saying that Javale will become the best player in the NBA (like LBJ has). But Javale has a ton of talent and potential it is just that he is remarkably immature. I think being in Denver will do wonders for him. There was just way to much youth in Washington. I think he is in a better environment.
     
  12. getbloodyred

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    please hakeem doesn't need money. he made 100 million dollars through his basketball contract, and he made more than that after retiring because of great investing and great real estate management. plus i doubt the modest hakeem olajuwon would be all about the money.
    i'm not sure why Houston players don't go to him, i don't see why they wouldn't.
     
  13. getbloodyred

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    if you don't think that, then LMFAO!
    he has talent, a lot of it actually, and he does have the potential to become a a very good player, maybe not the superstar that RedRedemption is talking about, but he can be an all-star without a doubt. in limited minutes for denver, he went 10 and 5, while shooting 56% from the field,

    These are the only centers that scored atleast 10 ppg, 5 rebounds per game, and shot atleast 55%, sorted by descending PER.

    <PRE>
    Tota Per Shoo
    Rk Player Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% PER
    1 Dwight Howard 2011-12 26 ORL NBA 54 54 38.3 7.7 13.4 0.0 0.1 5.2 10.6 3.7 10.8 14.5 1.9 1.5 2.1 3.2 2.9 20.6 .573 .000 .491 24.2
    2 Andrew Bynum 2011-12 24 LAL NBA 60 60 35.2 7.4 13.3 0.0 0.1 3.9 5.6 3.2 8.6 11.8 1.4 0.5 1.9 2.5 1.7 18.7 .558 .200 .692 22.9
    3 Marcin Gortat 2011-12 27 PHO NBA 66 66 32.0 6.5 11.7 0.0 0.0 2.5 3.8 2.8 7.2 10.0 0.9 0.7 1.5 1.4 2.2 15.4 .555 .000 .649 21.2
    4 JaVale McGee 2011-12 24 TOT NBA 61 45 25.2 5.0 9.0 0.0 0.0 1.3 2.7 2.7 5.1 7.8 0.5 0.6 2.2 1.4 2.7 11.3 .556 .461 19.9
    5 Al Horford 2011-12 25 ATL NBA 11 11 31.6 5.2 9.4 0.0 0.1 2.0 2.7 2.4 4.6 7.0 2.2 0.9 1.3 1.5 1.9 12.4 .553 .000 .733 19.0
    6 Tyson Chandler 2011-12 29 NYK NBA 62 62 33.2 3.9 5.7 0.0 0.0 3.5 5.1 3.4 6.5 9.9 0.9 0.9 1.4 1.6 3.0 11.3 .679 .000 .689 18.7
    </PRE>

    now tell me, who is the youngest on that list? and who got the least amount of minutes on that list?
     
  14. Carl Herrera

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    Remember this:

    Hakeem also worked with Hasheem Thabeet while Thabeet was in Memphis.

    How did that work out? He's no doubt good at what he does, but Hakeem is just a coach and cannot necessarily do what others cannot do.
     
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    Jones, Dmo and maybe Patterson would be worth hakeems time but that's about it imo...they have to have some great post game fundamentals like dmo or be insanely quick and strong like jones.
     
  16. tinman

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    Dream probably decided not to take on scrubs anymore after that workout.

    He can't turn turds into gold.

    Coachbadlee probably has a poster him... Hasheem, not Hakeem.
     
  17. tinman

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    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/e...-has-outrageous-expectations-for-javale-mcgee
    "No question, I see him as another star," Olajuwon said in an interview with FOX 26 Sports. "That guy should dominate the league.

    "He has tremendous talent. I give him all these moves and he can finish and he's already skilled. So now just show him how to use that skill to (get) to the next level."

    "McGee is incredible because he's not just a seven-footer, he's skilled," Olajuwon said. "He's very agile.
     
  18. kaitanuva

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    The rookies need to learn fundamentals. That is the Rockets coaches' job, not Hakeem's.

    Once they have a solid fundamental game and have mastered their own moves should they go and learn some Hakeem moves.
     
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