Why are we not as good as San Antonio was when they won the Finals?

you really cannot do that math. why 2004 lakers lost to pistons? the starting 4 of spurs had been together for how many year?

 

why are you looking at the past? even if we are just as good as SA back then, does it mean anything now? The WC is a hell lot harder/competitve now.

 

we need someone to step up and be the 3rd scorer, battier does everything else that we need but in a perfect world if Bonzi was playing like he was last year we would be right in the thick of things.

 

Yao < Duncan
Rafer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<(Infinity) Parker
Head <<<< Barry. (Experience and consistency)
Kirk Bonzi Howard <<<<<<<<< Horry (Excuse me, how many CLUTCH CLUTCH shots can kirk bonzi howard make? And how many did HOrry make???!?!? And how much experience does Horry have???)
JVG <<<< Papovich
Rockets Chemistry < Spurs Chemistry

That would explain it

 

Here we go again....


We are not as Good as the 2003, 2004, or 2005 Spurs. Please don't bring up some game we beat them in December that really doesn't mean whole lot. It was one game.

They are an all round better team than us, better defense, better offense, and deeper bench.

Van Gundy is good coach, but Popovich is little bit better. Popovich has better defensive schemes for teams like Suns and Warriors, while the Spurs match-up better with these teams and can get them out of their game.

Yao does have better stats than T-D. But when he starts winning in May and June, I'll put him ahead of Duncan. Let him get us deep in the playoffs and few MVPs first.

Battier is not equal to what Bruce Bowen was, in some of those playoff meetings with Lakers you could say Bowen did about the best job anybody could on Kobe. He slowed him down a bit, Kobe didn't run wild on S.A. The Spurs either won a series or kept every game close. Didn't Rockets give up 50 to Kobe twice, this year? We have no one on our team that can slow him down.

Hayes = Mohammed, it's push, Hayes a slightly better player, but he can't really do anything against legit big man, because he is too small. Mohammed could bother opposing pf's like Nowitzki and Garnett. Because he is a bit taller.


The Spurs, like the Pistons know how to win in crunch time and championship scenarios, as you can see with all the wins and trophies. Houston doesn't have the killer instinct down the stretch. They could, but we don't know.

 

i'll tell u whats the difference. ginobili and parker attacked the basket on a constant basis. parker made his living in the paint. he had the most points in the paint by far for any point guard that year. with so much penetration, barry, bowen, and horry had free reign. they were all great three point shooters with much more experience than head and battier or anyone else on our team.

with the rockets, we have a 35% jump shooting t-mac, a chucking point guard who is 3/500 on layups, and some other inconsistent players. its not hard to see why we aren't as good as the championship spurs...

 

Spurs have people who consistently drive and break down opposing defenses, Rockets dont.

Yao is great but he has still room for improvement. Duncan of those years was a lot more versatile and mobile.

3 consistent scorers compared to only 2 of ours.

Popovich is a better coach.

Spurs can play and adapt to multiple styles. Rockets HAVE to play slow tempo game to succeed.

Although their paint defense might not be as good as ours, Spurs 3 point defense is lot better than ours.

Spurs are much better disciplined and a lot more mentally tough.

Spurs have Academy award flopper in Ginobli. Its a dirty tactic but an effective one. He usually wins 1 or 2 games every playoffs just by his flops alone. Shane is an amatuer.

Spurs have a borderline dirty player in Bowen who can psychologically take out other team's players when he targets them (ask Shawn Marion and Ray Allen). Our dirty player is Mutombo, only if you really try hard and convince yourself, and only because his elbows are not in sync with his brain.


I probably didn't even need to type all that I have so far....what I am going to put below would have sufficed as the reason we are not equal to those Spurs team.


Spurs never had Rafer and Juwan Howard on their team during those title runs.

We have Juwan Howard. Spurs had Horry. Let me repeat. Spurs had HORRY!

 

exactly.

 

I'm watching the Spurs vs Warriors now and I see that the Warriors dont double Duncan like they doubled Yao. Maybe b/c the Spurs have Parker and Ginnobli as penetrators?

 

McGrady is the only advantage the Rockets have in this matchup. The Spurs have an superior player at every other position. Yao has better individual numbers than Duncan, but Duncan has three championship rings. The Spurs roster as a whole has more experience playing and winning big games, which is something that the Rockets have not yet learned how to do. And yes, Popavich is a better coach than JVG (no, this does not mean that he would give Spanoulis more playing time).

 

we wont know util the playoffs actually

 

The Spurs have 3 goos scorere, the rockets have 2. And the spurs have 2 gigantic advantages:

Rafer<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Parker
Gundy<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<POP

 

Put Popovich on the Rockets and we have a championship team.

 

Juwon Howards vs. Tim Duncan

 

Simple, think the only thing is the Rafer vs Tony Parker matchup, and probably the experience of the veterans. Although Tony Parker is a marginal shooter, he can actually get to the bucket AND finish. While we watch Reefer throw up floater after floater and chip more and more paint off of the rim.

 

I love comparing the Spurs to the Rockets. It's a good exercise since in reality they are very similar teams.

The problem comes down to though that they have Paker and we have Alston. It's that simple.

Battier/Tmac/Yao are comparable to Bowen/Ginobili/Duncan but that Parker vs Alston comparision is what totally blows us out of the water.

If we had a PG like Parker on this team then we would be a Finals contender.

In our starting lineup we have Yao and Tmac doing the offense with Battier and Hayes are garbage men. If we could just get that "3rd scorer" at PG to help augment our starters and help with the 2nd unit then this team would get to the next level.

The Spurs don't have as many "lulls" in offense because guys like Ginobili and Parker CREATE so much offense for themselves and other teammates. Their attacking puts SO much pressure on other team's defense. And then when you add the Duncan factor in the post it really puts defenses on their heels.

 

Yes! Exactly! Because that junk defense can't work when you have guys penetrating to break it down! Then those helpers have to help on the penetration and Duncan is left open for passes.

You can beat that defense by hitting the 3ptr or penetrating. Penetrating is much higher percentage.

The problem is the Rockets have penetrators in Tmac and Rafer. Rafer doesn't even count though since he can't finish. So we have ONE penetrator on the entire team. That isn't going to cut it.

 

we live and die with the three. we live and die with rafer alston