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Why are there hardly any good White American NBA players?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by bmd, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. Mr. Space City

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    take out athleticism, what's stopping white american point guards from having handles and shooting ability like kyrie irving or steph curry? those guys aren't GOD tier athletic freaks like russel westbrook or john wall.

    is it because white american basketball players mentally pigeonhole themselves as to what they think a white point guard is supposed to be? like a steve nash?

    it's perplexing. i see white players with the ability to be superstars but they just don't have "it", like jimmer fredette.

    is it just a mental thing holding back white american nba players from taking their game to the next level?
     
  2. Easy

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    Athleticism, as generally defined among basketball player, is not just about jumping high. It's about explosiveness (hop and quickness) and body control (doing lots of things in mid air).
     
  3. Caesar

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    Even someone like JWill electrified crowds but was forced to play a normal white pg game in order to survive in the league.

    Pistol Pete was ISO'ed by his teammates for doing the things he did. Along comes a black guy doing that and everyone goes crazy saying its stuff they had never seen before but that was a flat out lie. Pistol was doing the same things and Magic credits him himself. There are always going to be racial barriers. Look how black athletes treated Jermey Lin after his big pay day. The guy was hated on. It was pretty clear to see he had a target on his back. I remember one player saying if Lin was black, no one would have cared about the Linsanity. it would have been just a normal stretch of good basketball. But that's not true.

    The way i portrayed it before in this thread was in a joking manner, but i do believe culture and race plays a big part. Many black kids grow up dominating courts and never giving a white kid a chance because he's white. It's racist. Black people can be just as racist or more racist than any other race with the blacks vs the world mentality. Watch some tv or movies and you always see black people saying "white b****" or white whatever. Imagine the outrage for any other race especially white people saying black before an insult. Look at Shaq getting Jeff Whiteys name wrong and pronouncing it basically like he's a white boy. " WHITEY! WHITEY! WHITTTTEYYYY!!!" all while laughing really hard at him. Now imagine Brent Barry saying "BLACKY!!! BLACKY!!!! BLACKY!!!!" and laughing hard. He'd be out of a job and crucified for it.
    There is a huge double standard when it comes to racism and that has come into the world of the NBA and basketball which is dominated by black american culture.
     
  4. Caesar

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    I forgot with the Magic thing. Magic was loved for doing this showmanship type of play while Pistol was hated for it by his black teammates. You watch some documentaries on Pistol and i think it was Lanier that says something something, but this was a WHITE BOY doing these things. A WHITE BOY!

    Look how many black people flat out just say without fear of back lash that they loved and rooted for the Lakers because Magic and most of the team was black and the Celtics were the white boy team. Never have i heard a white guy say they rooted for the Celtics because they were the white team vs the black team. And how quickly it was forgotten that the Celtics franchise was the first real all black team that integrated fully before any other team. But forget the history, the Celtics two current best players happen to be white so i aint rooting for them!
     
  5. plutoblue11

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    You talking about a volume shooter/scorer in Pistol Pete vs. the quintessential point guard in Magic Johnson. Not saying you are completely untrue in your assertions, but Pistol Pete was a ball-hog in the way that Allen Iverson was and an inefficient game at times. And his teams weren't known for their playoff appearances. Magic's game, like other unselfish point guards, like a Nash or Kidd often improved the team's overall performance.


    You seem to have alot of issues with race considering your last post.
     
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    Not surprised. Some people really need to know people other than what they see from "TVs and Movies".

    Thus the main issue with a lot of people that think black people are inherently stronger or faster. They are usually not far off from attributing negative traits to black people as well.
     
  8. Jontro

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    Who cares about real skills when you a good looking as Chandlier Persons.
     
  9. Caesar

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    Yet Allen Iverson was loved and idolized in the black community. So basically you told me Pistol was like Iverson except Pistol was hated for being white and iverson was loved for being black and thugged out.

    I didn't compare Pistol's game to Magic, i said showmanship. The fancy and flashy passes were mostly passes that Pistol had already done before Magic. Yet Magic got all the love and praise and credit for those passes and plays that Pistol was already doing a decade earlier. If there was no Pistol, there would be no Magic Johnson. There would simply be a great player named Earvin Johnson.

    This is the problem. Instead of truly looking at the situation brought up, im labeled racist or ignorant for bringing it up in the first place. Life will continue where black people can get away with a free pass to be super racist and no one can do anything about it because of *insert something that happened a really long time ago*
     
  10. Mr. Space City

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    this could have been an enlightening thread but caesar is ruining it with his ignorant and dumb post.
     
  11. Mr. Space City

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    never understood how people who don't like black people love nba basketball and love rooting for black players. it's weird.
     
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    Because appreciation and understanding of speed, strength and agility is developed before or apart from any complex cultural perceptions, especially any based on comparisons of intellect or productivity.
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    The majority of NBA players are black Americans.
    For starters, one correlation I have noticed is that black players have greater wingspan:height ratios than non-black players. That greater ratio may create both a standing reach and a dribbling-control advantage.
     
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    Not everyone is the same. That is fact. There are hardly any Asian players in NBA. Asians just arent that good at basketball. Asians are extremely smart though, they have on average highest IQ (other than Jews) of all people in the world. Blacks have good athleticism, probably best in the world. They can jump the highest, run the fastest, thats why they have advange in basketball, thats why they are drawn to it. The more people drawn to some sport the more chance that some prodigy will appear in it. Prodigies like Harden or Steph Curry, who have other extremely good skills.
    Now white people have always been the best at power sports, lifting weights, throwing stuff. Also swimming. Everyones different.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    Or maybe it's because they have a better educational system...

    Also, jumping higher and running faster is an advantage in pretty much every port. Even Baseball. Soccer. Football. Pretty much every team sport values running faster or jumping higher. Using this logic there should be a bunch of black people playing baseball too.
     
  17. Icehouse

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    Black guys had been doing the things Pistol Pete was doing, but it was considered "playground basketball" and discouraged in the college game and league overall (NBA).
     
  18. Cohete Rojo

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    Half the population of India ****s in open fields and China's air pollution is so bad that its sky has been dimmed by 5% since pre-industrial time. Does not sound like Asians are extremely smart or as if they have on average the highest IQ out of the world's population.

    Though, I don't know what that has to do with their ability to play basketball, nor do I know what that has to do with why there is a lack of "good White American NBA players".
     
  19. fallenphoenix

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    it's like slave owners cheering on their slaves, as they compete to pick more cotton that the other plantation.
     
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    Asians are under their way to building their own economies will soon no longer need to do business with the US are any non-Asian entities when all Asian countries become more affluent to purchase the products they produce. There will be a new horizon without the West interfering.
     

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