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Why are the Titans Being So Disrespected?

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by what, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. updawg

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    Jeff Fisher is a defensive oriented coach, so he doesn't have the skills or desire to implement an advanced offense that could utilize VY.

    Coches are stubborn, they usually won't make a drastic change since they want to save face. Basically, shooting themselves in the foot just to save face. Offseasons are when these things take place behind closed doors
     
  2. Major

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    Or it could have simply had nothing to with Vince Young, and instead been the fact that they were moving the ball just fine all game long against Baltimore. Their problems were turnovers and a missed field goal, not an inability to move the ball comfortably.
     
  3. BmwM3

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    They could have put Lendale White back there and ran the wild cow.

    JK, don't kill me.
     
  4. BMoney

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    Fans are more stubborn. You just need to let it go. Your hero sucks.
     
  5. Nick

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    That's all true. However, wouldn't teams with a supposed "weapon" of VY's skillset try to find some way to work him into their game-in/game-out game-plan? Especially when while competent, their offense was by no means "elite" or comparable to other past #1 seed with similiar records.

    It likely had nothing to do with VY. And the reason he wasn't even considered in the first place was that his skillset is vastly over-exagerrated, and quite possibly maxed out in terms of what he can accomplish in this league as is (assuming he doesn't improve his overall game significantly from here on out).
     
  6. Kam

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    everyone, stop posting.





    this wins.
     
  7. KingCheetah

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    I can't believe people think that the Titans wouldn't have benefited with a few wildcat formations with Vince at QB.

    It's not the wildcat formation hasn't had a major rebirth this year or anything.
     
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    :D Reading pre-game posts after the game is the best.
     
  9. Major Malcontent

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    VY is totally not a team player. He could have laid hands on Johnson and healed his injury. But he didn't!

    I blame VY for the defeat!

    Mark my words... In 10 years VY will have almost as many passing yards as David Carr and will be spoken of in almost the same reverential tones.
     
  10. updawg

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    I guess since I never got wrapped up in the Vince, Mario, VY deal I'm not biased like a lot of you guys and still harbor feelings.

    If you look at it purely from a football perspective you would agree more with myself and others.

    But thats what being fans is all about, so I can appreciate your (shortsighted ;) ) opinions
     
  11. Nick

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    My guess is that the last time you saw Vince play, he was scoring a TD against USC in Pasadena.

    You may want to wake up and pay attention to all that has happened the last 3-4 years. It makes you look a little less idiotic.

    Oh, and btw, we just voted in an african american president, Saddam Hussain was found and executed, and the Astros won a pennant... in case you needed any more updates during the last 4 years.
     
  12. Uprising

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    ROFL. :D
     
  13. Major

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    That's never been Fisher's philosophy though - he's not razzle-dazzle / trick-plays / etc. He believes in ball control, consistent offense and solid defense. They certainly weren't going to bring out some crazy new VY plays for the playoffs - especially not against a top-notch sound defense (remember what they did to the Miami wildcat that worked on just about everyone else?). Besides which, why not flashy, the Titans offense was effective this year. They scored 2 pts fewer than the Colts this season.

    Beyond that, this all ignores the fact that the Titans were moving the ball all game long without any problems. They just kept making stupid mistakes that killed drives. They didn't need trick plays to move the ball, so why run risky stuff when your base offense is working just fine? Vince Young throwing a trick pass to Alge Crumpler isn't going to be any better than Kerry Collins doing it if Crumpler fumbles the ball in either case.
     
  14. KingCheetah

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  15. leroy

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    You're right. It's not like Jeff Fisher is an experienced head coach or anything...

    Oh wait...
     
  16. mateo

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    Brilliant.
     
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    Kinda figured as soon as the Titans had a poor showing or things wrent going well the VY fans would come back in force reminiscing about the good ole days:


    The days where USC couldn't stop the same play over and over and over and over and over again.


    The days where VY Runs for a TD in OT vs the Texans.


    The days where VY as an alternate gets to the Pro Bowl as a rookie.


    The days before VY had been around the league and teams had figured him out and started making him beat them thru the air.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    Good one!
     
  19. Nick

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    Yep... VY's legacy right there. A busted play showing his agility as a rookie against a mediocre team.

    Again... if he was only a rookie there... with nothing but upside and improvement based on his amazing athleticism... why has he failed to IMPROVE or show a semblance of capability to be able to unseat a 36 year old journeyman?

    Not to mention that he has 3 more years of age and now some injuries added to those legs... what do you really expect VY to be when he finally gets a chance to be QB again?
     
  20. Nick

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    They were effective, yes. But they also had huge question marks and lapses where they were completely neutralized... the Texans game being an example of that.

    Look, my argument isn't that they should have used Vince... it was that if Vince was truly the difference between winning and losing, he would have been out there by now in some shape or fashion. He wasn't the difference... he wasn't even an afterthought. He might as well have not even re-joined the team after his melodrama.
     

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