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Why are no hitters so common nowadays?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Honey Bear, Aug 21, 2015.

  1. Jturbofuel

    Jturbofuel Member

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    I think its because there are so many more strikeouts because hitters are all swinging for home runs. The high strikeout game is the easiest path to a no hitter. Its impossible to get a base hit when you don't put the ball in play.
     
  2. Astrodome

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    A 10 block or 10 steal game. It rarely happens and no offense is involved.
     
  3. Nick

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    Its not "that" rare or obscure.

    The closest thing nowadays is a 50 point game... but even that is much more common than a no-hitter (there were 8 in the NBA last year for an 82 game season... there have been 5 no hitters this year).
     
  4. astroscolt45

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    A quadruple double
     
  5. Phillyrocket

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    That would be more like a perfect game (23) or an unassisted triple play (15).
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    Quadruple doubles have happened 4 times in the 41 years it's been possible (since they started recording steals & blocks). 4 homers in a game has happened 16 times in 139 years.

    Hitting for the cycle has happened 306 times, there have been 292 no hitters.
     
  7. Astrodome

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    Since nba began recording blocks and steals there have been been more 10 steal or block games than no hitters. The number is pretty close. There are a lot more 10 block games than you think.

    154 10 block games since 1970
    About 140 no hitters since 1970

    I was wasted when I posted this morning but I wasnt "that" far off. The steal games are much more rare so you got me on that....
     
  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You also have to factor in the fact that there are about twice as many MLB games than NBA games in any given season (at least now). There are 2420 opportunities in a baseball season for a no-hitter. There are 1230 opportunities for a basketball rarity.
     
  9. right1

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    I'm sorry. In '91 & '92 there were a total # of 14 no-hitters. Still by far the highest 2 year total. From 2010-2015 there have been 29 no hitters. From 1967-1973 there were 30 no hitters and that was with only 26 teams in the league (24 in '67-'69). Also in 1908, 1915 and 1917 there were 6 no hitters each year and that was with only 16 teams playing 154 games! 1956 had 4, 1962 had 5, and '69 had 6! 1973 saw 5. And 1991 & '92 had 7 each!! That is the most ever in a season also done in 2012.
     
  10. boozle222

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    But baseball only has 2 players per game that can complete their feat. Basketball has 10 (though unlikely).
     
  11. Houstunna

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    Since the 60's expansion, the Astros' 11 no-hitters ranks only behind the Dodgers' 12.
     
  12. The Beard

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    Well, in 1917 the White Sox were no hit on back to back days on May 5th and 6th. So there is hope for Kazmir tonight :grin:

    On the other hand, it's only been 47 years since the Giants no hit the Cardinals on Sept 17th, then the next night the Cards returned the favor no hitting the Giants. And we face Greinke tonight :mad:
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    In 1969, Jim Maloney (Reds) no hit the Astros, the next night Don Wilson no-hit the Reds.
     
  14. The Beard

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    Yep you are right, April 30 and May 1. When I was looking at the list I was thinking April had 31 days for some reason.
     
  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The Maloney no-hitter ended a 4-20 month of April for the Astros. The Wilson no-hitter turned their season around where they were actually in contention in September. The finished the season 77-61.
     
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    Harden 13 turnovers :(

    Still hurts
     
  17. MadMax

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    Pitching is a refined skill, and you have pitchers that have been pitching in year round leagues now that are filtering in to the big leagues. It's far more common for kids to specialize in a sport instead of playing 2 or 3.

    The argument back is, "yeah...but isn't that also true for hitters?" It is true, but the impact of teaching kids to pitch...to refine their pitches and to add a pitch or 2 to their arsenal...has greater impact on performance than more cuts at live pitching or more soft toss.

    Pitching overall has vastly improved.
     
  18. Progs

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    Yeah Harden threw that game away...His gambling debt had to be paid.
     
  19. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No hitters in the last 5 years (30). In the 15 years before that (28).</p>&mdash; Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/638186870309027840">August 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    Cubs Jake Arrieta no hitter tonight against those very same Dodgers.
     
    #39 J.R., Aug 30, 2015
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