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Who's our next PF ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Da Wink, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. seclusion

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    don't mind yetti, he's senile (same reason he's on my ignore list...I hate it when people quote him haha).

    I think the bigger question is how are we gonna get the PF. will it be by trade? (one of our 6 pgs is getting traded...period) or the MLE, I'm pretty certain the #26 pick is as good as gone.
     
  2. rpr52121

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    I know he is a little old and probably won't be very productive anymore, but Joe Smith could probably be gotten for cheap. He's big and has been around the league a bit. He did play well at times last year. Though, he is still not the answer for starter.

    For starter, I'm just praying that McRoberts, Splitter, or J. Smith somehow falls near our pick. And if Splitter is there, Les should allow us to draft him and pay the buyout.
     
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    If they're going to trade anyone for a PF i doubt it's rafer. Rafer played decent. I think it's vspan and luther head who are the tradable players. Head totally flopped in the playoffs, i don't think he can make shots with his shot technique in high pressure situations. I hope he gets traded for a decent PF
     
  5. Barkley

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    I would love to see Chris Wilcox. Athletic, guick guy who can rebound clock and DUNK!
     
  6. H-TownBBall

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    I agree. Luther's regular season numbers might get better, but when people close on him in the playoffs he is a non-factor. His value will probably never be higher after his breakout shooting season. I also feel like our #26 is next to useless at this point because the chances of getting an impact player there are very low. Morey probably knows these percentages and will try to use it as part of a deal to get a known commodity such as Artest. If any team overvalues Luther in a package, I immediately deal him no matter what positions we get in return.
     
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    The he I was refering to was Nick Fazekas. I think he could be the type of PF that fits Adelmans system.

    Having said that, I do think this is a great chance for Novak and I do think Adelman will use him correctly.
     
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    best line up far that i have seen.

    are those trades doable though????
     
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    I was thinking the same thing, dude! West could be an upgrade at 4 and he is has range, that 's the different with Wilcox!
     
  10. crash5179

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    How do you pry West from the Hornets? He was the top scorer and rebounder. Teams do not typically give that up very easily...especially when the player is so young.
     
  11. crash5179

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    How about David Lee from NY?

    NY is said to be looking for shooters. Luther Head is a shooter and his salery is a match for David Lee's salery.
     
  12. HI Mana

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    If this was fantasy basketball, or NBA 2k8, I'd trade Shane Battier and Kirk Snyder to Charlotte for Gerald Wallace in a sign and trade, for 4 years, $44 Million, sign James Singleton and try to trade for David Harrison, perhaps with cash, or Novak, or something. Honestly, this is the kind of trade Charlotte should make; of all the teams in the league, they are perhaps the team most in need of "intangibles" and leadership, and have made a habit of collecting local players.They could then draft the best swingman available, whether it is Morris Almond, Marcus Williams or Jared Dudley

    The active roster, assuming we draft Dudley;

    James/Alston/Spanoulis
    McGrady/Head
    Wallace/Dudley
    Hayes/Singleton
    Yao/Mutombo/Harrison

    with Lucas III and Novak on the inactive list.

    Ideally here, you have lots of 6'6" - 6'8" high motor guys to play the 3 and 4 spots, with Wallace taking the majority of the backup 4 minutes and McGrady taking most of the backup 3 minutes, allowing Dudley and Singleton to play in case of foul trouble or matchups. With this kind of lineup, you're able to give Yao more protection on defense by allowing him to always guard the slower man, and making up for his limitations in help defense. In addition, by adopting this kind of system, you also create a situation where Lior Eliyahu could potentially flourish in a few years as a quick energy forward.

    Unfortunately, this is real life, and adding another substantial salary, attached to an extremely high salary risk is completely unrealistic, especially since Gerald could easily command Larry Hughes dollars on the open market.

    I'm still in favor of adding athletic 3/4s, because I feel that it's far easier to get a plodder at backup 5 like Brendan Haywood or Jamaal Magloire and an undersized hustler at 4 than somehow praying that Nick Fazekas can go on the Shawn Kemp/Mo Taylor Diet only with muscle, or that Josh McRoberts grows a pair, or Jason Smith develops as fast as that girl in your middle school class who was sporting a C cup.

    So from the above plan, I'd target Singleton, Eduardo Najera, Travis Outlaw, Andres Nocioni, Andray Blatche with the Mid-Level Exception. Most of these guys are restricted, or in the case of Najera, probably won't opt out, but still, you need to try; San Antonio stole Elson this year from the Nuggets; now he's a quietly effective piece that is going to win a ring.

    I'd see where the Rockets are after the draft before looking into trading Shane Battier. I don't see a realistic draft day deal, but to me it seems like Jared Dudley could easily step into Shane's role in a few years, while getting Morris Almond or Marcus Williams could permanently force Spanoulis back to Greece.

    Discussing the recent trade rumors, Rashard and Ron aren't quite the 3/4s I'd be looking for; if you stick either guy at the 4, you take away a significant part of their game; for Rashard, its his post-up game, for Ron Ron, its the top notch indimidating perimeter defense. Most of the players I want to target are guys who are considered tweeners who hustle and will benefit from being closer to rebounds and loose balls on the interior.

    So I suppose I don't have a real life answer, though Chris Wilcox wouldn't be it; assuming the MLE can't get a suitable 3/4, I'd rather suffer through having Shane backup the 4 behind Chuck with Luther taking all the backup 2 minutes and hopefully throwing our rookie swingman into the fire to take all the backup 3 minutes.

    Wilcox seems to be Super Stromile Swift to me.
     
  13. awo86

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    what's bad about wilcox:

    mediocre rebounding: he ranked 96 overall in the league in R/40miin.

    mediocre defending: According to hollinger's scounting report, Defensively, Wilcox is still behind the curve. Despite his athleticism he doesn't seem to have a knack for shot-blocking, and at 235 pounds he can be bodied out of the paint. His concentration lapses drove Mike Dunleavy crazy when Wilcox was a Clipper, but the folks in Seattle hardly noticed because everybody else was so bad.

    poor shot blocker for his athleticism.

    i dun think he's worth a battier.
     
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    Neither can play in the NBA.
     
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    I said that earlies. Chris is just a better version of Stromile. He's stronger and he's better rebounder. We really need this guy
     
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    The Suns have decided to keep Marion and look to be moving Kurt Thomas instead so there goes that scenario. He'd had been ideal for this team however.
     
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    I think he meant it as a bad thing :)
     
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    How about going a different way? If the Bulls don't, sign Nocioni. Resign Chuck. And draft Big Baby. Then you've got a combo forward who can certainly put the ball in the basket and light it up occasionally, a undersized rebounding maniac with decent defense, and a high post playmaker.
     
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    For those interested in Amir Johnson, I think it will be tough to pry him away from Detroit, which will work hard to re-sign him. Dumars and Flip plan to work Amir into the Piston's rotation next year. They view Johnson as a young player who would have been a top 10 pick in this year's draft.

    However, with Rasheed, C-Webb, McDyess, Maxiell and Johnson, that's a lot of players competing for 96 minutes a night. And that doesn't even include Nazr Mohammed or Dale Davis.
     
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    Actually, you're half right. I think his game is similar to Chuck Hayes, but he's a 6-10 version of Hayes, which enables him to block shots, something we couldn't get out of our PFs last season. I don't think he's overrated at all. I'd say he's properly "rated". If we could get him in a trade without giving up Battier, I'd be ALL OVER that.
     

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