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Who's our next PF ?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Da Wink, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. Hottoddie

    Hottoddie Member

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    I believe it's 60 days.
     
  2. crash5179

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    Artest is not going to be any better of a defender than AK47 on PF's of the league.
     
  3. BEXCELANT

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    Well, solid teams usually don't want to break up a solid nucleus of players. In other words, our best bet is to trade with a team that sucks raw eggs and is willing to make a few changes. That means that teams we have the best chances of making trades with would be teams like the Sonics, Hawks, Celtics, Knicks, Pacers, Hawks, Bobcats, Trailblazers, Sonics, Clippers, Kings, Hornets and Grizzlies. Then there are your unrestricted FA's. So take your pick. If you could steal someone from the Sonics, Hawks, Celtics or Grizzlies to make your team better then I say do it. If for some reason you could get the Hawks to part with a PF say...Sheldon Williams, then I'd say do it. Hawks are hurting for guards so lets give them Luther Head. Everyone else in the league thinks he's hot stuff cept for us so lets oblige them. But basically, I'd be looking at these cellar dwellers for PF's.

    PF/C 's from the above mentioned teams

    Sonics - Collison, Fortson, Lewis, Brown

    Hawks - Batista, Medevenko, M. Williams, S. Williams, J. Smith, Pachulia

    Knicks - Balkman, Cato, Channing Frye, J. Jeffries, D. Lee

    Trailblazers - Aldridge, LaFrentz, Magliore, Pryzbilla

    Celtics - Ryan Gomes, Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Brian Scalabrine, W.
    Szcerbiak

    Pacers - Ike Diogu, Jeff Foster, Danny Granger, Troy Murphy, J. O'Neil

    Bucks - Dan Gadzuric, Ersan Ilyasova, Charlie Villanueva, Brian Skinner, Charlie Villanueva

    Bobcats - Othella Harrington, Walter Herrmann, Sean May, Jake Voskuhl

    Clippers - Tim Thomas, Aaron Williams, James Singleton, Magette

    Kings - Ron Artest, Brad Miller, Vitaly Potapenko, Kenny Thomas, Corliss Williamson, Justin Williams

    Hornets - Brandon Bass, Marc Jackson, David West, Hilton Armstrong

    Grizzlies - Brian Cardinal, Hakeem Warrick, Lawernce Roberts, Alexander Johnson. Stromile Swift


    Obviously, a lot of these guys are untouchables. We will never get David West from the Hornets for instance. But for the money and teams willing to deal, my pick out of all these is:

    Ron Artest - Head Case but his talents are obvious
    S. Williams - yeah I might be dreamin but I really like this guy
    Przybilla - Maybe willing to deal since they are gonna get Oden or Durant
    Ryan Gomes - Rookie/Sophmore just coming into his own.
    Jeff Foster - Won't get you many points but man can this guy rebound!
    Hakeem Warrick - Very good rebounder and player for the Grizzlies - He's no Stromile Swift!
    Othella Harrington
     
  4. MrButtocks

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    Ike Diogu
    Indiana Pacers
    Ht: 6'8"
    Wt: 255lbs
    06/07 Stats: 6.2ppg, 3.4rpg, .4apg, .4bpg, 80%ft in 12.9mpg

    I mentioned Ike Diogu on another thread, but I've been high on this kid ever since I saw him at Arizona State. He's short, but has a 7'3" wingspan to make up for it. Most people didn't consider him incredibly athletic, but I actually think he runs the floor and elavates really well. He's bulky, stronger than Hayes with better hands to boot. Per minute he's nearly as good a rebounder as Chuck. On the offensive end he's got an incredible post game utilizing great footwork and a solid, high-arcing jumpshot out to the college 3. Right now he's dangling on the end of the Pacer's bench, so we might be able to snag him for a reasonable package.

    The problem with Diogu is that he should be doing much better. I thought he was great in college, but he barely got time in GS and Indiana and I know why. He's simply not an impact player like he was in college. Sure, he puts up great per minute stats, but he doesn't leave his mark on a game. Chuck Hayes caught people's attention this year with his hustle; Battier is known for contributing far beyond his stats. Diogu is known for nothing. What's hurts him most is his defense. He's terribly soft for a guy so strong. Chuck is a defensive presence, while Diogu reminds me more of Zach Randolph. Yuck.

    Bottom line, if Diogu is available we should go for him. He may not be able to start for us right away, but I'd love to have his fundamental contributions off the bench. It's hard not to like a guy who's per 40min stats project to 19ppg/10.5rpg. Linked below is a highlight reel showcasing some of his skills in his rookie year. Pay attention to his low post footwork, in particular.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3MyU_NCyu0
     
  5. The_Yoyo

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    hold up vitaly potapenko is still in the league???? I remember using his rookie cards as projectiles in class back in the day
     
  6. BEXCELANT

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    Well officially he's still on the roster but for all practical purposes he's probably a Suralike expiring contract.
     
  7. BEXCELANT

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    LOL Here's Potapenko's stats for 2006/2007

    2006-07 Statistics
    PPG 0.0 RPG 0.70 APG 0.0
    EFF -1.33
    Born: Mar 21, 1975
    Height: 6-10 / 2,08
    Weight: 285 lbs. / 129,3 kg.
    College : Wright State
    Years Pro: 10

    Don't think I"ve ever seen a player with a neg EFF rating before lol.
     
  8. badguyian

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    NENE.......He's D&O. though his salary ain't low,but he worth it
     
  9. htownbball

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    he's more mobile than randolph and a better shotblocker imo. i posted a thread about our trade assets and wanting to get diogu, but apparently he's pretty untouchable.

    id trade head,vspan,snyder,sura and the 26th for him and marquis daniels. then sign james posey with the MLE. its steep, but diogu could really be a missing piece at PF
     
  10. krockets

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    Yeah, the guy has the potential, but can he release those potential in the next 2-3 years? That's my only concern about him..
     
  11. Big Shot Bob

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    i love how charlie villanueva is on there twice when the man can hardly play power forward. on your picks i would probally take artest, warrick and gomes (i've been harping about him since he got drafted). but unfortunately there is no love for smaller forwards on this board. you have to realize that height doesnt matter, what matters is your standing reach. josh howard is like 6'7 but that mofo can slide in as a power forward because he has like a 7'5 wingspan, giving him the advantage of playing taller than he actually is.
     
  12. TMac#1

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    Artest weighs 260 lbs, he could have shut down Boozer completely. It could have gone like this.

    Yao on Okur
    Artest on Boozer
    McGrady on AK47
    Battier / Bonzi on Harpring
    James on D-Will

    The only PF he can't hold is Timmy D.
     
  13. Hayesfan

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    Did you miss the part where they didn't want Yao playing defense on Okur??? What's up with the revisionist history?

    The defensive assignments during the Jazz series was Yao on Boozer. That was not because Chuck couldn't handle Boozer.. it was because they didn't want Yao forced to play defense on the outside.

    yeesh
     
  14. drpepper

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    How about Glen Davis!! :eek:

    profile from draft express:

    Looking at Glen Davis before actually watching him play, you would assume that he is your typical wide, slow, undersized center that can barely get up and down the court and is just used for setting screens or getting a few rebounds. That however is completely not the case when discussing Glen Davis.

    What stands out first when watching him play is his surprisingly good ball-handling ability. He is very good at taking defenders off the dribble and is able to change gears use hesitation moves even use a crossover move that can use to get to the hoop off the bounce. He utilizes this very well at the college level to take slower centers by surprise in the way he can handle the ball. Once he gets by the defender it is very hard to stop him because it is difficult stopping a man of his size and strength from getting a shot up. His ball-handling is not only limited to one on one situations, as he has even shown the ability to get the rebound and bring the ball up court if need be.

    Another very surprisingly aspect of Davis’s game is that he has a very
    developed mid-range jump shot. He can shoot efficiently and effectively from the 15-17 foot range or even beyond and shows great shooting touch for a man his size.

    Davis really likes shooting at the top of the key in the circle, which is where he is most effective if left open. When he is on the block posting up, Davis also has a very good fade-away jump shot that he can use off of a spin move. As the SEC player of the year, he’s a true go-to player for his team and will look for his shot in all situations to try and carry his team offensively.

    Athletically, Davis is very rare. A player his size, with his strength and bulk, combined with his unique agility and nimbleness on the court does not come along very often. He has very quick feet, and can get up and down the court a lot better than most would assume. Davis is a mountain of a man, an immoveable object in the paint in many respects because of his wide body and physical strength. He has massive arms and looks like he could bench press a truck if really wanted too. The key is that he knows how to use his strength, too. It is not wasted on the court; he can use it when carving space for himself to post up, or to limit post players from setting up where they want to in the paint on offense. Another intriguing part of his game is that he is very coordinated for a big man, and has huge and soft, but strong hands on defense and offense.

    On offense if there is one play that Davis can execute to perfection it is the pick and roll. It all starts with his ability to set a great screen with his wide body, and then use his quickness to get open followed by implementing his fine short-range jump shooting ability. He is a pick and pop player and if he gets in trouble he knows how to pass his way out of a double team. Davis is comfortable with the basketball in his hands and simply goes out and makes plays.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=420
    DraftExpress Profile: Glen Davis
     
  15. xiki

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    Chad Ford seems to think so. He has Rox picking him (in both his previous and current mocks).
     
  16. Nelly

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    wow, from those highlights Diogu looks like Elton Brand.
     
  17. BEXCELANT

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    looks like Sir Charles
     
  18. saleem

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    He doesn't rebound well and continues to have weight problems. Coming down to 280-290 from 310 is not enough.He can make things difficult for scoring in the paint but I think tall and strongly built guys won't have a problem against him. I also feel that he will have problems in rotating out on to the perimeter against players like Boozer and Amare.
    He is a decent 2nd round player but not good enough for the 26th pick IMO.
     
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    Bench deapth ranks 30th in the league!
    This team will never when a title.
     
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