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Who's most at fault?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by 1Deep, Oct 29, 2018.

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Who do you blame most for the Rockets early season struggles?

  1. Morey

    25 vote(s)
    15.2%
  2. Tilman

    15 vote(s)
    9.1%
  3. Bzdelik

    34 vote(s)
    20.7%
  4. MDA

    16 vote(s)
    9.8%
  5. The team itself. Gotta blame the players for poor play.

    74 vote(s)
    45.1%
  1. RasaqBoi

    RasaqBoi Member

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    Ghost Owner.
     
  2. RasaqBoi

    RasaqBoi Member

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    But how many threesomes ? Ur wrong for not including that
     
  3. caneks

    caneks Rookie

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    No one but Morey if you have to point finger to. This is not a team with core of championship anyway. Last season was special because some guys were in contract year.
     
  4. cheke64

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    How are you going to blame the players? Mcw,Ennis, and Melo suck for years, you expect that to change because the gm says they should outperform their deal which is vet min. The bulls suck and let's blame the players only
     
  5. Handles

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    Injuries, suspensions, new crew trying to learn each others’ games, lost our defensive coach. There’s a lot at play here.

    Those “fans” that think we’ll miss the playoffs are overreacting. We’ll make the playoffs. We just need to be our best by April. It’s a loooong season. We’ll be better by the end of it.
     
  6. hakeemthagreat

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    I honestly think it's partially Morey & the players. If Bzdelik was leaving Morey should've had another replacement ready. There's no logical reason a team coming off 65 wins & doesn't have liable defensive coach. This excuse MDA gave about "all our coach's will have to chip in" was very worrisome. We could cut Qi & afford a defensive coach
     
  7. J Sizzle

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    I heard the same damn stuff during 2015. That team obviously sucked. So does this one.

    Yeah, they'll make the playoffs in all likelihood, but when the expectations are to "run it back!" after pushing the Warriors to 7, and then you look like this, it's easy to see that ain't happening.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
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    The team went CHEAP on Ariza and Luc - sign one of those two and we are fine.

    DD
     
  9. Hustle Town

    Hustle Town Contributing Member

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    Morey has finally been exposed as a fraud. He created a house of cards, and it's all coming down.
     
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  10. deshen

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    I don't think any team wanted to pay more than what they asked for from Rockets. so basically the team did not go cheap on them. Ariza asked for at least 15m per for multiple year contract, I doubt any team willing to pay him half of that price after this season.
     
  11. Tato1971

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    The same story night after night. A team without a heart What is humiliated by each rival.
    The season is just beginning, but if this is going to be the attitude ... we are lost.
    There are players who demanded millionaire contracts and their performances are a shame.
    And Carmelo... without words.
    There are always justifications for failure, that injuries, that Paul did not play ... the same old story.
    The champions do not make excuses.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    The CP3 trade hurt depth.

    The luxury tax hurt depth more.

    Now they are injured and playing a lot of scrubs
     
  13. LorneMalvo

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    None of this is true.
     
  14. Kruze10

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    Yeah, about that... maybe we do need to panic. This team is absolutely and undeniably terrible. There is no effort on both ends. I mean, you would think a team with a couple days off would come in fired up or at the very least with some energy. They looked dead by the 3 quarter.

    A healthy Harden and CP3 will not push this team to the level they were last year. Honestly, the 2015-16 team would destroy this team.
     
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  15. ChumpCity

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    Curse of Jake Tsakalidis

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  16. Easy

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    Process of elimination. What have changed from last season to this season?

    Either (1) the pieces we lost were extremely valuable, or (2) the pieces we acquired are extremely poisonous, or (3) both.

    Lost: Ariza, Moute, Ryno, Bzdelik
    Moute and Ryno were injured for a long time. They could not be the difference makers. So the loss of Ariza and/or Bzdelik may be more devastating than we thought.

    Acquired: Melo, Ennis, MCW, Knight, Chriss
    Ennis, MCW, Knight, Chriss hardly matter. They can't be poisonous. The only possible culprit would be Melo.

    So by elimination, the losing of Ariza and Bzdelik and the acquiring of Melo are the differences.

    Possible other factors: Contracts of CP3 and Capela.

    More possible factors: The lack of positive vibes sending to the Rockets from Clutchfans.
     
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  17. LorneMalvo

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    Even that is cheap Tilman's fault. Doesn't want to pay for talent, doesn't want to pay for two defensive coaches.
     
  18. icewill36

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    again, everything starts harden and cp3. cp3 got suspended, now harden is injured.

    you throw in lots of new pieces, defensive coach retiring, league rule changes, trade rumors, fat contracts, age, and this is what you get.
     
  19. RocketsFido

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    What a depressing season. But looking at how good the Warriors are this season, makes me doubt anyone can beat them now that they have Cousins.
     
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  20. kjayp

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    There's plenty of blame to go around...

    The players are playing as though they are disinterested and unprepared...

    Bzdelik screwed us by leaving with little warning...

    MDA was not involved with the defense enough to mitigate the loss of Bzdelik... and doesn't have a clue how to fix it...

    Morey undercut Bzdelik's defensive efforts (personnel wise) resulting in his leaving... and he didnt have a good backup plan for a defensive coordinator...

    Idk what role Tillman played in the decisions of who to pay and who to let walk (vs DM's desires)... so i got no opinion there...


    Ultimately, I gotta say MDA is most at fault...
    A) It's his job to have the players focused - they aint...
    B) It's his job to have the strategies laid out and the players prepared - he didn't, he relied too heavily on Bzdelik to handle the defense - and now he cant recover...

    MDA is the head coach - not the offensive coordinator... if oc is the role he wants - fine, take the paycut... but otherwise its his job as head coach to rally the troops and make sure we got a plan - on both ends of the court... he's failing thus far...
     

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