The obvious answer is Andre but the question is who fits better?? Caron Butler is a scorer. Andre is a slasher/ decent defender really. He can score don't get me wrong but who best fits the team and which offer would be better Then you have to look at the players thats already on the team. Philly is basically running a similar type offense the Rockets are running but the only thing is they don't have a PG. As much as i like Andre I think the best option will be to go with Butler. We need a scorer that can score. Not a defensive player trying to be a scorer ( Ariza )
Scarface, there's a lot to be said for jettisoning the contract of Cook and Taylor definitely wouldn't be a dealbreaker ( though I believe he has upside of a 6th man instant scorer). So in essence Philly would be giving more value than the original deal .....and this is where the rumors say we are ...something like that,eh? Yes, I'd love to have Speights or even Louis Williams. If Morey could stretch our dollar and rake in one of those guys without giving up our core, then the legend grows. On Sam, I agree that he's an attractive expiring contract, but he also DOES fit our situation. Rebounding and interior D .... Also if we dealt Sam before the deadline we're rolling the dice on Yao staying healthy. He's nice insurance.
Because everyone else does, right? What i'm saying is based on what yall heard too, the difference is that the board is running with it like Philly offered iggy in the deal, but phily offered brand and dalembert, THAT is what was reported and where all this iggy talk came from. It also said an iggy deal would have a shot, but it never said it was a deal on the table from philly. Based on the fact that houston wants more than they give, it's safe to asume an iggy deal "has a chance" because that's what houston wants and is waiting for philly to agree, which is why it said they have spoken about it in a week.
I agree with you... In the end I think the Rockets are probably going to get played because they want sooo much for McGrady. Im not sure why they want so much for a guy who has been out for basically a year and a half. Then on top of that he had micro-fracture surgery and is 30. End of the road and Morey wants young good talent for him??? Maybe im looking at it in a different way but If i was other G.Ms i would probably laugh at Morey because he wants other teams up and coming stars for a broken down injury prone player with a large expiring contract. I really don't see this happening.
Yes, but Iggy is also 4 years younger than Butler. Plus, Iggy's defense is superior to Butler's, and his offensive game is on the same level if not better than Butler's. It's good to lock up players like Iggy long term, I don't have a problem with his contract.
Iggy will cost us at least Scola this summer. I'd rather have Butler + our current nucleus of players. The money just doesn't work if you want to add Iggy and keep this core together. Not to mention, Butler actually can move without the ball whereas Iggy is more of a poor man's version of younger Tmac. Dribble, dribble, dribble and then shoot a jumper. I'd take Kevin Martin over either guy when salary is factored in.
Not sure why this is so one sided, they are pretty even players imo. Both are #2 players, Iggy is more athletic, but I think Butler is more consistent. I would be happy with either one.
Heck yes, still believe in that...100%....but if the deal is more than 1 player for 1 player, you have to look at the overall package. DD
Why is everyone on RV6's case? Why would Philly trade their franchise player in Iggy for a contract that expires. Yes I know that it is a valuable 23 million of the books and you do lose your big contracts in dalembert or brand, but its a franchise player. Iggy doesn't get traded in that deal unless Rockets send Landry and Cbud with Tmac or a first round pick
Philly trades Iggy because they would be wasting his career by not being a contender, so they flip him into younger players by way of an expiring contract and start over. It also depends on what they think of Iggy, maybe they don't think he is a cornerstone player but is being paid like one, so again, you flip him and start over. DD
I'd be happy with t-mac for Iggy straight up. I don't care about the numbers I want a championship this year not next.
Mainly because AI is a dunker and butler isn't as much...there was a lot of questions in the other thread about how good butler really was, but no one seemed to ask about AI...butler isn't as exciting and he's more quiet...the hollywood effect.
Because Iggy isn't really a franchise player. He averages the same as Brooks and Landry while playing more minutes. Philly is hoping to get a franchise player with their cap space or through the draft.
So let me get this straight. I didn't know that teams cared more about one player's career accomplishments over the overall success of the team. DD would you trade your youngest star borderline allstar player who is above average on both sides of the floor. And if you start over, the rockets have no one that the franchise can build around with whoever we send. They have no one else to build around...Minnesota got Al Jefforson in the KG trade. New Jersey got Devin Harris and picks in the JKidd Trade. Rockets have no one else to give to build a franchise around. Wall is the only one in the draft that is franchise level. the only way Philly trades iggy if they think he isn't worth it like you say...BUT WE DON'T KNOW that.
exactly...philly isn't offering iggy as the main part of a tmac deal, they're offering dalembert and brand, but houston wants iggy as part of any deal...for philly to restructure their offer to revolve around iggy they'll want tmac + one of our young guys at the very least.
i think his point is that as of now that's who they have as the face of the franchise, if they give him up just for an "opportunity" to be a player in this summer's free agency, it would be stupid on their part because there are no guarantees. For them to give up that guy they need something they know they'll get to have, like one of our young guys, and then they'd be willing to take a chance at free agency and risk not getting a big name, or at least not who they wanted.
I mean don't get me wrong...I would love Iggy on the team...but we have to be realistic The only plausible trade is.... Philly Sends Iggy Dalembert or Brand For Tmac Landry and maybe add JT or a draft pick In the end I think Brand or Dalembert both start for C for us now until Yao gets back
Rockbox...DD simple question... Do you trade away your athletic 25 year old slasher who plays great offense and good defense? Don't tell me he isn't their franchise player because he is THEIR franchise player. It is like asking the Hornets to trade away CP3 for Tmac....not happening. Young all-stars are not a dime a dozen
