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Who would you rather have? A healthy Yao or Tmac?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Apr 29, 2009.

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Who would you rather have?

  1. Healthy Yao

    71.9%
  2. Healthy Tmac

    28.1%
  1. HtownForever

    HtownForever Member

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    trade Yao and Tmac for KOBE... I dont want them both

    Frontin Yao =Useless

    Soft Heartless Tmac = Loser
     
  2. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    I factor Tracy's attitude and mentality into my choice. At the beginning of his Rockets career, he seemed focused and sincere about wanting team success.

    Look I fell for the hoopla that he could possibly be mentioned with Kobe. But that was quickly erased.
     
  3. illwil29

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    Healthy T mac! Yao can't put a team on his back. Tracy really can't either , but T mac can leave his stamp on a game with his passing or rebounds.
    I like Yao but he disappears in clutch situations. Like the playoffs. Aaron Brooks does not even look at Yao in the post. There was one play where Yao actually had somebody pinned and Aaron just started dribbling and Steve Blake is blowing past him as well. Come on now Steve Blake!
     
  4. T_Man

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    Now this I agree with... Kobe is beyond the T-Mac comparison and is right along the Jordan comparison... Love him or hate him the man can play and his desire to win is equal to MJ.

    So you have my vote with that statement.
     
  5. illwil29

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    Oh yeah a healthy Yao, and Brandon Roy is still getting to the rim at will. Block his shot and discourage him from bringing that weak stuff in.Brandon Roy has not dunked on anyone they have all been lay ups.Pick and roll is three man defense one to chase the other to block the shot and the last one to rotate. They have been taking care of the first and last one the second one
    only happened three times.
     
  6. leebigez

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    Let me ask u a question with hypotheticals, if tracy was as healthy as last yr and yao was out but we had kaman, miller, or nene instead of deke as his replacment, would this team have the same opportunity to advance?

    Before u answer, think about it. The rox replaced tracy with wafer and artest vs deke and cuck hayes. If u were a gm, which combo u feel would be more successful?
     
  7. tinman

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    Well which Kaman are we talking about? The good one before he got the big contract or the guy who stunk up the Olympics and the Clippers?

    Its tough to say because despite all the Tmac fans throwing stats at you, the Jazz wore him down and you could tell he didn't have the energy to finish the 4th quarter.

    The harder question to ask is would Tracy trust Kaman, Miller or Nene to give them alot of touches? or will he go for "HERO" mode?

    wafer/artest vs deke/hayes

    It seems easy to pick, but Deke/Hayes is a great defensive pairing
    Wafer/Artes would be the better choice for offense
     
  8. bigkstrong

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    I have no time to read the thread, so therefore I am sorry if this is redundant. We have had playoff runs without Yao and "T-Mac" respectively and it has only proved that we can't get it done either way. We would need both of them to be healthy and hungry to go far in the playoffs.

    Currently, we are only a playmaker away. We have so many tools in the area of role players. Ron is not a playmaker and I think he forces the issue knowing that the teams needs to have one. We are devoid of a Brandon Roy, D-Wade type of consistent scorer to be championship caliber.
     
  9. hmittal

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    To me the question is not whether you would take a Healthy Yao vs a Healthy TMac. The question should be whether you would take a Healthy Yao over a passionate TMac. Apparently this year the problem with TMac as he has admitted to the media, that he was not passionate about playing this season; although the Rockets management put together one of the best teams they have had in a while. My answer is I would take a Healthy Yao, but I would take more of a disciplinary coach to go along with him. The whole players coach mentality of Adelman is hurting the Rockets in the playoffs. Game 5 was one of the dumbest performances I have seen in a long time from the Rockets, for that most of the responsibility lies with the coach. In the end, its better to have a 7 foot 6 highly skilled giant versue a 6 foot 7 winer, in my opinion!
     
  10. Obito

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    You say they wore him down in the 4th, that generally happens when you score 40 in the first 3 qaurters and your still down by 20.

    You seem to target his playoffs failure but that's a really bad argument to go to if you want to convince people that mcgrady is a bad player.

    There's no way you average 28.6 ppg, 6 ass, 6 rebounds and your a failure, there's clearly something wrong with the rest of your team.

    If mcgrady comes back strong next year and we advance to the finals, id kill to see your facial expression.

    Id like to ask, what would you tell everyone?
     
  11. hmittal

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    We only miss the mentally healthy TMac!
     
  12. hmittal

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    So that means there was something wrong with Orlando, Toronto, and Houston. Come on this guy cannot play when times get tough. Even if he comes back next year, he will never win a championship. Only certain players have that championship passion in the league and McGrady isnt one of them, even when he was healthy. By the way. McGrady quit on his team this year, the only reason he had surgery is that he didnt want go get traded at the deadline. Unfortunately we all fell in his trap, Houston fans we should have known what we were getting McGrady. Give me a break!
     
  13. ReD_1

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    what's the point? why can't rockets enjoy both players abilities?
     
  14. tinman

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    Ask Stephen A Smith that question
     
  15. JoeZ

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    Yao by far. He is more disciplined and that wins championships. T-Mac is physically talented but that is about it. Trade T-Mac:)
     
  16. roksoer

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    yao can't carry a team on his back, tracy could
     
  17. tinman

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    when? let me know.
     
  18. leebigez

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    Maybe I'm saying nothing in a nothing thread. I just think the replacement of talents should answer the question. We replaced Yao with 2 guys that avg under 10ppg and we replaced tracy with a guy that avg 16 and another that's off the bench at 10 yet we won more games last yr. It doesn't matter because tracy is going to be here next yr and yao needs some help. One guy is a playmaker and the other is better suited as a play finisher.
     
  19. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    I'd rather the Rockets pulled off that Chauncey Billups trade for Tmac before the season.
     
  20. lz56

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    could you have an option for both. i really love to have both. they compensate for each other very well.
     

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