In my opinion I'd still take Correa & Co. There are many factors to it though, it would depend on who we'd get instead of McCullers/Ruiz and etc
They could have still afforded McCullers if they went with buxton. A fairer comparison would be buxton, McCullers, + slot 4th round vs correa, McCullers, and Ruiz.
*sigh* can you say KNEE-JERK REACTION? Once again, Correa was a legit number one overall pick. Furthermore, Correa is a year younger than Buxton and holding his own with an ops near 800 and an obp near 400. McCullers is a stud and has the chance to be an ace. He has had a very good season so far. Ruiz sat out all of his high school baseball season last year with a blood clot. Judging him after a month or two in his first full season of pro ball is extremely shortsighted. His walk rate is over 14 percent. He has also been unlucky with a 260 babip when the Midwest League average is over 300. He has consistently gotten Eric Chavez comps and has a ton of talent. Want to get Buxton's weiner out of your mouth now?
I said at this point. Take the time to read before you fly off the handle and come off like an ass. Hitting .210 isn't bad luck. That's just bad. They're all young however Buxton looks pretty dynamic. Your post reminds of what people said about Jio Mier. He stunk it up in his first full season but he was young too. This year he has a .602 OPS and he's not quite so young.
Yeah, it's still early but Buxton should be a top 5 prospect in the minors next season. He has superstar written all over him but the only way to judge will be in several seasons once they've all had a chance to develop.
Eh? Several years ago I posted that Mier was barely hitting .200 in his first full season and someone responded with Derek Jeter's stats or something. Correa is playing fine at this point but Buxton is playing better. Ruiz is stinking it up and its not definitive of anything but saying at this point doesn't make it irrelevant.
*sigh* Whatever you say. A 260 babip when the league average is 307 is unlucky. A lot of people didn't even expect Ruiz to start in full season ball this year because of how much time he lost his last high school season with the blood clot. It is far too early to say anything about the kid besides the fact that he has a 14 percent walk rate which is encouraging. Moreover, do you realize that ten months is a gigantic difference when it comes to development in baseball especially when we are talking about kids just out of high school? Correa is younger than guys like Clint Frazier in this year's draft class even. And he is still holding his own. That speaks very well to Carlos. In a few years, you will be on your knees with Carlos' nutsackkk in your mouth and so will I...lol. That is for sure.
So if Buxton starts to struggle and correa and Ruiz heat up, will you come back and say "yeah at this point correa was a better deal than Buxton"? You can't just keep on changing your mind just because someone is doing better when they are older and in the same league. Guess what, Nick Williams is doing better than both, I guess we should have picked him instead since he is playing well?? To be fair, I agree Ruiz has struggled but be has been hitting much better as of late (.278 in the past 10 games). You are valuing guys based on what they are doing in Single-A, wait till they get to the higher levels.
Buxton is coming back to the pack with his recent 2-18 stretch. Over the last ten games, Correa is finally healthy, and he is hitting .366. He also plays a more priority defensive position and is a year younger. I wouldn't trade Correa straight up for Buxton, much less having to give up McCullers and Ruiz too.
Guys who suck at single A tend to suck at higher levels. They're all high schoolers so there's a long ways to go but I'd expect to see more from Ruiz by the end of the season. At the time I thought drafting Correa and moving the money around was a nice move. If Buxton becomes Mike Trout then probably not such a nice move. I don't recall anyone presenting the stats on the success of #1 picks based strictly on talent evaluation and not signability. It sounds like taking the number two guy is not historically a good move. I assume Luhnow had that information prior to the draft.
What makes you think Luhnow had Buxton ranked higher in his talent evaluation? Only thing I heard was it was between Appel and Correa, and Appel wasn't willing to take $6M.
I think the point that everyone else is trying to point out to you is that it is simply way too early to make any sort of "winner" claim. And it seems like you are 100% discounting any potential for "development" when you make a statement like "Guys who suck at single A tend to suck at higher levels." It is a very ignorant and shortsighted to believe that someone of Correa's age (and Buxton for that matter) won't develop as they grow older into their 20s. I'm going to agree that this is a knee-jerk reaction, and even 2 years from now, would be a knee-jerk reaction. Come back to me when both are producing at the big league level, which is the only thing that ultimately matters anyway. In 4 years from now, both kids can be game changers and unfortunately both can flame out to be nothing, that's the nature of the beast. All I know is that Luhnow has spit out multiple big time prospects and other very nice contributors for the Cardinals, so I am going to go out on a limb and say that he just might know a thing or two more about this whole scouting and drafting thing than both you and I. Therefore, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and probably at least 5 years before I conclude that the Correa/McCullers/Ruiz experiment is a failure.
Oh wait, sorry, I just read tellitlikeitis' update that Correa snapped his 10 game hit streak. We totally should have drafted Buxton, dang it Astros, you suck again!
There is just so much wrong with this statement. Go look up Carlos Gonzalez, Miguel Cabrera, and Justin Upton's single A stats. They were all in single A at Correa's age (or older).. Those guys sure sucked at the higher levels.
Since, over their last 10 games, Correa is hitting 100+ points higher and getting on base 90 points higher than Buxton (although Buxton is slugging better), that Correa is now the better player since small sample sizes have been used in this thread?
People worrying about Correa are way off reservation. As a comparison, Correa's numbers are pretty comparable to Manny Machado's numbers at similar stages in their careers. If Correa can stick at SS, he's golden. If he has to move to 3B, then you hope he grows into the power that everyone expects.
