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Who will be Souter's Replacement?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by serious black, May 23, 2009.

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Who among the frontrunners should Obama pick?

  1. Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm

    8.3%
  2. Solicitor General Elena Kagan

    8.3%
  3. California Supreme Court Justice Carlos Moreno

    2.8%
  4. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano

    5.6%
  5. 2nd Circuit U.S. Appeals Court Judge Sonia Sotomayor

    58.3%
  6. 7th Circuit U.S. Appeals Court Judge Diane Wood

    8.3%
  7. Dark horse

    8.3%
  1. Grizzled

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    One key bit of experience she brings is the experience of growing up as a Hispanic female in a poor neighbourhood in NY. That is extremely valuable experience to bring to the SC. Before the selection there was a lot of talk of wanting to find someone who wasn’t a judge to bring more real world experience to the bench. Sotomayor was a judge but she also brings that kind of life experience that very few judges have. This is the America of the American Dream. The people are being represented again. Fairness and justice are once more important. Even as a non-American it’s a joy to watch.
     
  2. basso

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    what does growing up in a poor neighborhood, whether in NYC or elsewhere, have to do with the laws she would be charged with upholding, or the constitution she'd be "interpreting?"

    how have fairness and justice been under-represented in the past? is there a specific case that to your mind was unjustly decided, that would have been differently decided with sotomayor on the bench?
     
  3. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    basso, you are reaching new lows. Sotomajor's qualifications make Clarence Thomas look like he came straight from MacDonald's to the Supreme Court bench. Honestly, is there any limit to how foolish you can make yourself appear? Even after all this time, you surprise me.
     
  4. Grizzled

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    Let's deal with your first paragraph. First I think I need to understand what your position is so I can be clear on what you're asking. Are you saying that you don't think it matters what a person's background is, and that every qualified person should be able to see the law the same way? In other words, are you saying that it shouldn't matter where someone grew up, or whether they are male or female, or whether they are conservative or liberal. Is this your position?
     
  5. SamFisher

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    I don't know, maybe in Buck v. Bell or any number of similar decisions. Do you agree or not agree?
     
  6. A_3PO

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    Deckard, that is a dumb question, even if rhetorical, because of who you are asking.
     
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  7. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I can't help myself. For some bizarre reason, I think there is A Greater Basso floating around in his brain, somewhere. He's obviously intelligent. Anyone who could start as many threads as he has with such a modicum of typos has to have some neural activity, at least more than typically found in the GARM, where typos abound. It bothers me that he's so completely obstinant in his defense of all things George W. Bush, even unto his successors, regardless of obvious acts of stupidity on their part. I know too many Republicans bemoaning the state of their party to think it is simply kneejerk "GOP Hurrah!" babbling to no purpose.

    It is a weight I carry around the D&D, this belief in a Greater Basso. Should I be worried about myself? No doubt.
     
  8. geeimsobored

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    Pssh, eugenics was what made this country great.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    This belief should only be relevant to you if you believe the entity in question cares for any sort of dialogue with you whatsoever. There has never been genuine or sustained evidence of this, so the question of "intelligence," for me at least, became completely moot. (I will say if logical reasoning needs to be in your starter kit for intelligence, you've got some other problems to sort out for the GB.) Spiders look kind of smart, but they don't really want any dialogue with you, and in the end it is just a creepy mismatch of realities.

    So, I say you're venturing into pagan territory with this belief.
     
  10. mc mark

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    Bob I love it when you talk all sciencey!
     
  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    confirmation hearings start today
     
  12. mc mark

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    [​IMG]Nothin'! I got nothin'
     
  13. Deckard

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    Over a month later and I finally read this post. I have to say that you make a strong point, B-Bob. Absent a furry suit, absent any expressed interest from him for honest dialogue, excepting some rare exchanges that seem lost in the mists of time, or in the Van Allen Belt, moot's the operative word. I give up. These endless, inane posts from basso have gone from joke, to irritant, to filler in D&D that disrupts real discussion, or at least entertaining discussion, real or not. I doubt that I'll bother with basso's threads again. I usually skim past them now. The excess has become an excess of absurd redundancy.
     
  14. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
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    I am intrigued by this hunt for the Greater Basso -- a newsletter -- do you have one ?
     
  15. ROXRAN

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    Why can't there be more ROXRAN's in the world...sheesh.
     
  16. basso

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    not a baseball fan, apparently:

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  17. mc mark

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    Soto Schools Racist Republican senator


    Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), seeking to discredit Judge Sonia Sotomayor’s judicial philosophy, cited her 2001 “wise Latina” speech, and contrasted the view that ethnicity and sex influence judging with that of Judge Miriam Cedarbaum, who “believes that judges must transcend their personal sympathies and prejudices.”

    “So I would just say to you, I believe in Judge Cedarbaum’s formulation,” Sessions told Sotomayor.

    “My friend Judge Cedarbaum is here,” Sotomayor riposted, to Sessions’ apparent surprise. “We are good friends, and I believe that we both approach judging in the same way, which is looking at the facts of each individual case and applying the law to those facts.”

    Cedarbaum agreed.

    “I don’t believe for a minute that there are any differences in our approach to judging, and her personal predilections have no effect on her approach to judging,” she told Washington Wire. “We’d both like to see more women on the courts,” she added.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    sessions has a lot of nerve
     
  19. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    No, no newsletter. I have given up my search. The Greater Basso has gone the way of the White Whale, lost forever, and I am no Captain Ahab.
     
  20. kpsta

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    [​IMG]

    Riders were sent to pick up the trail. By the time I gathered my things, the entire tribe was well on its way. Their efficiency and the speed at which they moved was enough to impress any military commander. I've gone from a person of suspicion to one of genuine standing. I am greeted with open smiles and looks of appreciation. In short, I have become a celebrity.
     

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