Lets make more 'if howard' threads. Here are a few... If we get Howard, what number should he be? If we get Howard, are we contenders? If we get Howard, is Morey actually God? If we get Howard, what color is the sky? If we get Howard, does that mean Les likes big black men? Make halfway decent threads, please.
I think it's a lock we get Dwight or Bynum,if not we would have amnestied Scola for nothing.Im sure Orlando gave us a heads up that if we get rid of Scola we would get Dwight.
People keep saying, "hey we can get Josh Smith!", but can you really? Atlanta just completely cleaned house to be a player in the Howard sweepstakes. You think they're going to trade their best player and one of Howard's very good friends to Houston now? Think again.
"if" we get Howard I think we get Lin only to use as a asset can u imagine next year we are doing this all over again but with clippers as a sign & trade for cp3 and us giving them some of Orlando's bad contracts (which I think will be expiring) to match.... Oh well or we can just sign & trade Howard for Bynum next summer this is going to get stupid
As inefficient as he has been in his career so far, I think that he is the perfect kind of compliment to Dwight.
I wouldn't sell the team just yet. Orlando is gonna find the best package for them. They aren't gonna care at all - what makes us happy. Until he is en route to Houston "nothing" is a lock. That is why a lot of people are upset. We have dismantled the team in hopes Dwight comes to HOU but if he don't, then we have no option but to tank/suck
Yup. I understand moves like the Scola amensty serve as substantial "proof" for CFers on a Dwight deal, but nothing is set in stone. That's what worries me too. As time goes on, other teams might have second guesses. I saw a tweet in another thread where Hennigan said nobody else besides the Rockets has jumped back into the Dwight chase, but someone potentially could at some point. That's the most dangerous part about this whole thing. Regardless of how great our offer is, logically, it's all up to the Magic. They could just be really stupid and settle for some half-assed deal down the road because they were indecisive, and we would lose out again. Let's not jump the gun.
supposedly we can still get one more max player even if we get howard. Here is the list of FA available in 2013: Point Guard (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status) Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers – $17.8 million – Unrestricted John Wall, Washington Wizards – $5.9 million – Team Option ($6.7 million) Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors – $4.0 million – Restricted ($5.3 million Qualifying Offer) Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers – $5.4 million – Team Option ($5.6 million) Darren Collison, Indiana Pacers – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.3 million Qualifying Offer) Jrue Holiday, Philadelphia 76ers – $2.7 million – Restricted ($3.8 million Qualifying Offer) Ty Lawson, Denver Nuggets – $2.5 million – Restricted ($3.6 million Qualifying Offer) Brandon Jennings, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.2 million – Restricted ($4.3 million Qualifying Offer) Ricky Rubio, Minnesota Timberwolves – $3.7 million – Team Option ($4.0 million) Devin Harris, Utah Jazz – $8.5 million – Unrestricted Kyle Lowry, Houston Rockets – $5.8 million – Team Option ($6.2 million) Eric Bledsoe, L.A. Clippers – $1.7 million – Team Option ($2.6 million) Jose Calderon, Toronto Raptors – $10.6 million – Unrestricted Brandon Knight, Detroit Pistons – $2.7 million – Team Option ($2.8 million) Jeff Teague, Atlanta Hawks – $2.4 million – Restricted ($3.5 million Qualifying Offer) Roddy Beaubois, Dallas Mavericks – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.3 million Qualifying Offer) Jarrett Jack, New Orleans Hornets – $5.4 million – Unrestricted Beno Udrih, Milwaukee Bucks – $7.4 million – Unrestricted Norris Cole, Miami HEAT – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million) Eric Maynor, Oklahoma City Thunder – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.4 million Qualifying Offer) Mario Chalmers, Miami HEAT – $4.0 million – Team Option ($4.0 million) Kemba Walker, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.5 million – Team Option ($2.6 million) Greivis Vasquez, New Orleans Hornets – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.2 million) Reggie Jackson, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.3 million) Corey Joseph, San Antonio Spurs – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million) Will Bynum, Detroit Pistons – $3.3 million – Unrestricted Toney Douglas, New York Knicks – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer) Nolan Smith, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.4 million – Team Option ($1.4 million) Jeremy Pargo, Memphis Grizzlies – $1.0 million – Unrestricted* Earl Watson, Utah Jazz – $2.0 million – Unrestricted Sebastian Telfair, Phoenix Suns – $1.6 million – Unrestricted Daniel Gibson, Cleveland Cavaliers – $4.8 million – Unrestricted C.J. Watson, Chicago Bulls – $3.2 million – Unrestricted Shaun Livingston, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.5 million – Unrestricted Shelvin Mack, Washington Wizards – $0.8 million – Unrestricted* Andrew Goudelock, L.A. Lakers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted* Shooting Guard (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status) Monta Ellis, Milwaukee Bucks – $11.0 million – Early Termination Option ($11.0 million) Andre Iguodala, Philadelphia 76ers – $14.7 million – Early Termination Option ($15.9 million) Tyreke Evans, Sacramento Kings – $5.3 million – Restricted ($6.9 million Qualifying Offer) Kevin Martin, Houston Rockets – $12.4 million – Unrestricted James Harden, Oklahoma City Thunder – $5.8 million – Restricted ($7.6 million Qualifying Offer) DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors – $3.3 million – Restricted ($4.5 million Qualifying Offer) Evan Turner, Philadelphia 76ers – $5.2 million – Team Option ($6.7 million) Jordan Crawford, Washington Wizards – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.2 million) Ben Gordon, Detroit Pistons – $12.4 million – Player Option ($13.2 million) Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs – $14.1 million – Unrestricted MarShon Brooks, Brooklyn Nets – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.2 million) Alec Burks, Utah Jazz – $2.1 million – Team Option ($2.2 million) Corey Maggette, Charlotte Bobcats - $10.9 million – Unrestricted Tony Allen, Memphis Grizzlies – $3.3 million – Unrestricted Iman Shumpert, New York Knicks – $1.6 million – Team Option ($1.7 million) J.J. Redick, Orlando Magic – $6.2 million – Unrestricted Stephen Jackson, San Antonio Spurs – $10.1 million – Unrestricted Mike Dunleavy, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.8 million – Unrestricted Anthony Morrow, Brooklyn Nets – $4.0 million – Unrestricted Daequan Cook, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.1 million – Unrestricted Klay Thompson, Golden State Warriors – $2.2 million – Team Option ($2.3 million) Ronnie Brewer, Chicago Bulls – $4.4 million – Unrestricted Gerald Henderson, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.1 million – Restricted ($4.3 million Qualifying Offer) Gary Neal, San Antonio Spurs – $0.9 million – Unrestricted* Corey Brewer, Denver Nuggets – $2.7 million – Unrestricted Gary Forbes, Toronto Raptors – $1.5 million – Unrestricted Reggie Williams, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.5 million – Unrestricted Jimmer Fredette, Sacramento Kings – $2.3 million – Team Option ($2.4 million) Jimmy Butler, Chicago Bulls – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million) Christian Eyenga, L.A. Lakers – $1.1 million – Team Option ($2.1 million) Wayne Ellington, Minnesota Timberwolves – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer) Avery Bradley, Boston Celtics – $1.6 million – Team Option ($2.5 million) Xavier Henry, New Orleans Hornets – $2.3 million – Team Option ($3.2 million) Dominique Jones, Dallas Mavericks – $1.3 million – Team Option ($2.3 million) Martell Webster, Minnesota Timberwolves – $5.7 million – Unrestricted Raja Bell, Utah Jazz – $3.5 million – Unrestricted Francisco Garcia, Sacramento Kings – $6.1 million – Team Option ($6.4 million) Lazar Hayward, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.1 million) Elliot Williams, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.4 million – Team Option ($2.4 million) Quentin Richardson, Orlando Magic – $2.6 million – Player Option ($2.8 million) Charles Jenkins, Golden State Warriors – $0.8 million – Unrestricted Josh Selby, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.8 million – Team Option ($0.9 million) Lester Hudson, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.9 million – Unrestricted Small Forward (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status) Josh Smith, Atlanta Hawks – $13.2 million – Unrestricted Paul George, Indiana Pacers – $2.6 million – Team Option ($3.3 million) Derrick Williams, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.8 million – Team Option ($5.0 million) Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.8 million) Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio Spurs – $1.8 million – Team Option ($1.9 million) Wesley Johnson, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.3 million – Team Option ($5.4 million) Shawn Marion, Dallas Mavericks – $8.4 million – Early Termination Option ($9.1 million) Dorrell Wright, Golden State Warriors – $4.1 million – Unrestricted Jan Vesely, Washington Wizards – $3.2 million – Team Option ($3.3 million) Linas Kleiza, Toronto Raptors – $4.6 million – Player Option ($4.6 million) Richard Jefferson, Golden State Warriors – $10.2 million – Player Option ($11.1 million) Trevor Ariza, New Orleans Hornets – $7.3 million – Player Option ($7.7 million) James Johnson, Toronto Raptors – $2.8 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer) Metta World Peace, L.A. Lakers – $7.3 million – Early Termination Option ($7.7 million) Al-Farouq Aminu, New Orleans Hornets – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.7 million) James Jones, Miami HEAT – $1.5 million – Player Option ($1.5 million) Rashard Lewis, Washington Wizards – $22.7 million – Unrestricted Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns – $2.0 million – Team Option ($2.1 million) Omri Casspi, Cleveland Cavaliers – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.3 million) Chris Singleton, Washington Wizards – $1.6 million – Team Option ($1.6 million) Marvin Williams, Atlanta Hawks – $8.3 million – Early Termination Option ($7.5 million) Kyle Korver, Chicago Bulls – $5.0 million – Unrestricted Luke Babbitt, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.9 million – Team Option ($2.9 million) Luke Walton, Cleveland Cavaliers – $5.8 million – Unrestricted E’Twaun Moore, Boston Celtics – $0.8 million – Unrestricted* Julyan Stone, Denver Nuggets – $0.8 million – Unrestricted* Power Forward (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status) Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers – $7.2 million – Restricted ($9.4 million Qualifying Offer) Taj Gibson, Chicago Bulls – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer) David West, Indiana Pacers – $10.0 million – Unrestricted DeJuan Blair, San Antonio Spurs – $1.1 million – Unrestricted Serge Ibaka, Oklahoma City Thunder – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer) Paul Millsap, Utah Jazz – $8.6 million – Unrestricted Al Jefferson, Utah Jazz – $15.0 million – Unrestricted Derrick Favors, Utah Jazz – $4.8 million – Team Option ($6.0 million) Tristan Thompson, Cleveland Cavaliers – $3.9 million – Team Option ($4.1 million) Bismack Biyombo, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.0 million) Lamar Odom, Dallas Mavericks – $8.2 million – Unrestricted Larry Sanders, Milwaukee Bucks – $2.0 million – Team Option ($3.1 million) Ed Davis, Toronto Raptors – $2.2 million – Team Option ($3.2 million) Patrick Patterson, Houston Rockets – $2.1 million – Team Option ($3.1 million) Trevor Booker, Washington Wizards – $1.4 million – Team Option ($2.4 million) Austin Daye, Detroit Pistons – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer) Tyler Hansbrough, Indiana Pacers – $3.1 million – Restricted ($4.3 million Qualifying Offer) Kenneth Faried, Denver Nuggets – $1.3 million – Team Option ($1.4 million) Marcus Morris, Houston Rockets – $1.9 million – Team Option ($2.0 million) Tobias Harris, Milwaukee Bucks – $1.5 million – Team Option ($1.5 million) Hakim Warrick, Phoenix Suns – $4.3 million – Team Option ($4.3 million) Josh McRoberts, L.A. Lakers – $3.1 million – Unrestricted Gustavo Ayon, New Orleans Hornets – $1.5 million – Team Option ($1.5 million) Jeff Pendergraph, Indiana Pacers – $1.5 million – Unrestricted* Ryan Gomes, L.A. Clippers – $4.0 million – Unrestricted Dante Cunningham, Memphis Grizzlies – $2.1 million – Team Option ($2.2 million) Charlie Villanueva, Detroit Pistons – $8.1 million – Player Option ($8.6 million) Quincy Pondexter, Memphis Grizzlies – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.2 million) JaJuan Johnson, Boston Celtics – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million) Jordan Hamilton, Denver Nuggets – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.2 million) Craig Smith, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.1 million – Unrestricted Samardo Samuels, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted* Sean Williams, Dallas Mavericks – $0.9 million – Unrestricted Hamady N’Diaye, Washington Wizards – $0.9 million – Unrestricted* Justin Harper, Orlando Magic – $0.8 million – Unrestricted* Josh Harrellson, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted* Jon Leuer, Milwaukee Bucks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted* Center (name, team – 2012-13 salary – status) Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic – $19.5 million – Unrestricted Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers – $16.1 million – Unrestricted DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento Kings – $3.9 million – Team Option ($4.9 million) Greg Monroe, Detroit Pistons – $3.2 million – Team Option ($4.1 million) Samuel Dalembert, Houston Rockets – $6.7 million – Unrestricted Nikola Pekovic, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.8 million – Unrestricted* Nikola Vucevic, Philadelphia 76ers – $1.7 million – Team Option ($1.8 million) Ekpe Udoh, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.5 million – Team Option ($4.5 million) Emeka Okafor, New Orleans Hornets – $13.5 million – Early Termination Option ($14.5 million) Andris Biedrins, Golden State Warriors – $9.0 million – Early Termination Option ($9.0 million) Tiago Splitter, San Antonio Spurs – $3.9 million – Unrestricted* Enes Kanter, Utah Jazz – $4.3 million – Team Option ($4.5 million) Zaza Pachulia, Atlanta Hawks – $5.3 million – Unrestricted Brad Miller, Minnesota Timberwolves – $5.1 million – Unrestricted Kurt Thomas, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.3 million – Unrestricted Timofey Mozgov, Denver Nuggets – $3.1 million – Unrestricted* Kevin Seraphin, Washington Wizards – $1.8 million – Team Option ($2.8 million) Cole Aldrich, Oklahoma City Thunder – $2.4 million – Team Option ($3.2 million) Johan Petro, Brooklyn Nets – $3.5 million – Unrestricted Dexter Pittman, Miami HEAT – $0.9 million – Unrestricted* Byron Mullens, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.3 million Qualifying Offer) Jon Brockman, Milwaukee Bucks – $1.0 million – Unrestricted Brandan Wright, Dallas Mavericks – $0.9 million – Unrestricted Jerome Jordan, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*