Exactly, and something tells me that if it were the other candidate who had this sort of 'relationship', that suddenly this 'non-story' would be a rallying cry.
Do you think he's going to appoint Ayers to a cabinet position? What about associations with felons in general?
What their relationship is exactly is a valid question, no? Is he an unrepentant terrorist? And more importantly, why does everyone assume that indicting Bush absolves Obama? It doesn't.
and this wouldn't be such an issue if obama hadn't gone out of his way to minimize that relationship, when it's clearly more extensive than he's admitted. what is he hiding?
Obama is a muslim terrrrrorist with Ayers; we all know this. But what we don't know is what he is hiding. Ho Ho Ho I have the answer from my sources. It will be divulged soon. Ok, I'm divulging it now. He is actually hiding that he is a communist from Russia. Sent here to spread communistic-muslim tyranny.
No one has said it does absolve Obama. But it does point out the hypocrisies on count_dough-ku's concerns of the relationship.
Maybe. But first you'd have to prove he was an unrepentant terrorist, which I haven't seen you do yet.
Hayes, Saudi Arabia was much friendlier terrain for Al Qaeda than Saddam's Iraq ever was. That's fairly evident, right? Perhaps we should find McCain's relations as a 7-year-old. We would need to get the facts of his life from 1942.
The Saudi royal family has terrorized its citizens to remain in power for decades. Human rights in Saudi Arabia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia And we won’t even get into Bush’s ties to the Bin Laden family
I'm not going to deny that associations matter in regard to evaluating a candidate but you also have to look at the nature of that association. I think an argument can be made for Rev. Wright as that was clearly a fairly deep association. Rezko could also since there was some sort of financial dealing involved. I haven't seen anything regarding Ayers that would hint at that association being that deep.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121987452084877651.html?mod=opinion_journal_political_diary Barack Obama's supporters insist that an ad from a conservative group attacking his ties to unrepentant 1970s radical William Ayers is irrelevant to the campaign. Cass Sunstein, a University of Chicago law professor and close friend of Mr. Obama, says that while he is "very disturbed by [Mr. Ayers'] past and by his refusal to disavow what the did . . . the implications of this for Obama are zero." You wouldn't know that from the reaction of the Obama campaign. Yesterday, it took the extraordinary step of airing a response to the Ayers ad, which links Mr. Obama to the former Weather Underground organizer who took credit for a series of non-fatal bombings at the U.S. Capitol and Pentagon during the Vietnam War era. "With all our problems, why is John McCain talking about the 60s, trying to link Barack Obama to radical Bill Ayers?" the Obama ad asks. "McCain knows Obama denounced Ayers' crimes, committed when Obama was just 8 years old." Obama lawyers have also sent a letter to the Justice Department demanding a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project, the conservative group behind the ad, for potentially violating campaign finance laws. McCain aides say they are perplexed by the Obama ad. "It is misleading," McCain campaign strategist Steve Schmidt told National Review. "It states the McCain campaign is running an ad on the issue and it's not. Obama described Ayers as just a guy who lives in his neighborhood. We know that's not accurate." Also unexplained is the sudden sensitivity on Team Obama's part. It's already known that Mr. Ayers, now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, hosted a key fund-raising party during Mr. Obama's first bid for public office and also served with Mr. Obama on the board of a Chicago-based charity until 2002. Today, the University of Illinois will finally release documents it tried to keep from the public on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, the liberal school reform effort founded by Mr. Ayers and chaired by Mr. Obama. Obama campaign aides insist the two men had only a casual relationship. During a Democratic primary debate last April, Mr. Obama said that "the notion that . . . me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense." We may know more about the relationship between the two men later this week, after reporters have plowed through the once-suppressed Annenberg Challenge records."
The royal family has as more to fear from AQ than Hussein did. And I think it is important to distinguish between the heads of the royal family and the whole family which has thousands of members. Saying a lot of funding for terrorism comes from Saudi Arabia, or even the royal family, is not the same as saying the leaders of SA fund AQ. It isn't his relations from when he was seven and that's suprisingly disingenuous of you, B-bob. Obama has a relationship with Ayers now. I admittedly don't know the extent of it, but I think it's a fair question. I don't see anything about terrorism in this, oppression and terrorism are not the same thing.
I apologize, I had forgotten about that. That said though how aware of Obama was he of Ayers past in 1995? In regard to him saying his relationship is friendly he has said he is friendly with John McCain, now I'm not saying John McCain is a terrorist but it shows that it is possible to still disagree with what someone stands for and their positions yet still maintain friendly relations. If Ayers is a campaign advisor or is slated for some major position in Obama's Admin. yes I would say that is worrying. I haven't seen anything like that. I will reserve judgement if more comes out regarding their relationship but until then I don't think there is much here.
I let is slide with the first post, but it bugged me when your reposted. He worked for the law school of the University of Chicago, a venerable and top-ranked private school, not the University of Illinois at Chicago, which is a rather hum-drum, adequate public school (though not even the best in the U of I system). As an alum of the University of Chicago, I get annoyed at the confusion with the similarly-named UIC. As for this association with Ayers... well, it doesn't change my vote, let's say.
I think this is well balanced. If he launched his political career from Ayers home I think that indicates more than a distant connection (as some have suggested). There isn't any impact to Obama's campaign as far as I am concerned until we know the depth of the relationship. Personally, I don't know why Obama wouldn't just denounce Ayers as he did Rev Wright.
OK, answer the second question then and ignore the first. What do you (and others) really believe that Obama is plotting with Ayers?
