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Who thinks this team is better w/out Yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Desert_Rocket, Mar 3, 2008.

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  1. m0lson

    m0lson Member

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    oh come on. sure we are still good w/o yao. deke stepping up and our pf position is pretty strong.. but better than with yao? come on he is one of the best(with howard) centers in the nba.
     
  2. 2rings

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    Let's revisit this at the end of the season and I will remind you then how stupid this post really is
     
  3. juju14

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    Why is every lying.
    1.Our defense is the same with MT out there(but he is out there for only like 20 mins)Yao averged 2.5 blks and we were holding teams under 90 before yao went out.The defense hasn't gotten better it's the same.
    2.Our offense is not has good.Just wait until when we can't make any outside shots thats when we will miss him.Also laundry and scola was getting great post position, but jackson wouldn't pass it to them.We need to establish some post up players.
     
  4. michecon

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    And? The Suns were so wishing they have a big man like Yao, so they could ACTUALLY BEAT the Spurs and win a Championship. So much so that they goes out to get an old Shaq. Logic, man. Logic.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Right now, we're winning games with our Defense.

    But that won't be enough when we go against other defensive powers - that's when we'll feel Yao's absence - he absolutely is other team's nightmare, and without him, we'll struggle to score points against a superior defense.

    That's my concern.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    adelman said the same thing last night in the post-game conference. he's aware of it. i think right now, we're running our offense. when we struggle, then that's when we go to tracy (like we did to start the 3rd and the middle of the 4th to close the game out or extend the lead).

    tracy is not having to do a lot right now b/c others are making shots. when others are struggling, you'll see a heavy dose of tracy mcgrady. and we all know what he can do if he gets a lot of touches.

    trust me, adelman is already way ahead of the game and thinking of situations when we WILL struggle offensively. that's why i believe in coach adelman :D
     
  7. professorjay

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    If a 3 game sample set, 2 of which against really weak teams, are good enough for you so be it. I never thought we were better off trading Tmac, and I'm not about to jump on this crazy Yao-less bandwagon either.

    I think the playoffs will be a little harder...just a hunch.
     
  8. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Didn't we win like 12 straight and could've won 17 straight if Yao didn't miss the game against UTAH? This team is playing outstanding basketball right now. If Yao wasn't injured, this team would be even more unbeatable.
     
  9. ibm

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    to the op, or any others who have posted or are going to post threads similar to this one, here is my rebuttal –

    assume, and this is a safe bet, that morey, adelman and company know a lot more basketball than we do.

    if we’re really better off w/o yao, then morey and adelman, who know basketball and the team much better, would want to trade him. they may even consider buying him out so we at least free up a roster spot. until that actually happens, i’m not gonna look at any “arguments” that say we’re better off w/o yao.

    same rebuttal applies to mcgrady as well.
     
  10. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Wait until Scola and Landry have a bad game. Then you will really miss Yao. Same thing when T-Mac and Yao not having a good night, the others step up.
     
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    while the original premise of this thread is foolish, I think our recent play should be an indicator that we need to reduce yao's minutes, not only for health reasons but because yao is more effective with only 30-34 mpg... and we should give deke more minutes to make up for it.

    god knows what we'll do when he retires..
     
  12. fuzzy88

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    Still good enough does not mean better.

    When you said the truth is in the pudding, what the pudding basically tells us that the Rockets are still good enough to beat some good teams like the Nuggets. But that doesn't mean Rockets are better without Yao. It is possible, but you can't say that just because Rockets continue to win. If Rockets were losing with Yao and are winning without Yao, then you can say Rockets are better without Yao.

    But why do I even bother making the argument? This is an idiotic post.
     
  13. Drexlerfan22

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    Incorrect.

    We won 16 of the last 16 with Yao. The one loss was the Utah game, which he missed.
     
  14. MLittle577

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    Can we win a ship without Yao? Hell nawl!! That's all that matters.

    He's the biggest mismatch in the league right now, and he plays for us!! When you have a player like that on your team, you always have a chance win the ship.

    As currently constructed, we're probably good enough to be the Mavs of the recent past, at our max potential.
     
  15. Desert_Rocket

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    If the coaches felt like we were better with Yao on the bench do you really think they would bench him due to the Cash Cow factor? I'm sure the coaches get a ton of pressure to play Yao more minutes than they normaly would due to please the Chinese fans.

    This brings up another question. Did the Cash Cow factor into Yao being overplayed, thus resulting in his injury? Interesting....
     
  16. pmac

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    Without Yao we're not the same on defense or offense.

    Its too early to say whether we're better on defense but we are very different. Mutombo is probably the best shot blocker in NBA still (but he only plays 20min). Landry, Scola, and Hayes are much quicker on their feet so they add something but they can't block shots. We are not the same.

    On Offense, we'll definately miss Yao but Landry and Scola can do some things that he can't so...

    We are different. Better sometimes. Worse most times. But definately different on both sides of the ball.

    We'll beat up on poor defenses because we'll have better movement on offense, because Yao is rather stationary. We'll stagnate when defenses are good in the half court without our go to big man, similar to the other small teams.
     
  17. WNBA

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    I thought we've already won the championship on paper before the season started.
     
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    That is crap. First T-mac and then Yao.

    If China is the cash cow you are talking about, there is NO WAY they want Yao to play 37 mpg. Do you think Chinese fans want Yao to play 37 mpg? That is crap.

    You may have your own opinion, no matter how crappy it is. But every time some people like you talk about Yao, they bring up the cash cow nonsense from nowhere. There are a lot of international players out there, and you have to earn your time by efforts and contribution.
     
  19. poprocks

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    Yao gives us offensive and defensive flexibility that no other teams have got. But I will contend that with Mutumbo we are no worse than Detroit with Antonio McDyess.
     
  20. T_Man

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    They are a quicker team without Yao in the lineup right now...

    There is a good and bad with Deke in the lineup...

    The good is - He onlys concentrates on defense and rebounds.

    The bad is - With Deke in we really only have one low post presence with our power forward.

    But we will no more about this team this week with Dallas and New Orleans and in 2 weeks after that...
     
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