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Who thinks this team is better w/out Yao?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Desert_Rocket, Mar 3, 2008.

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  1. rofflesaurus

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    It's not like we were able to beat elite teams WITH Yao. whats your point?
     
  2. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Didn't this team lost to Utah without Yao? Didn't people b****es and saying sitting Yao out or limiting his minutes against Utah would be good for the Rockets? I guessed that turn out really well without Yao. This team need Yao especially when you will be playing the elite teams 4 to 7 times in a row. That's when the playoff counts the most. Playoff games is totally a different ballgame.
     
  3. rocketman1979

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    I doubt it, once Bynum get his money he'll become another Kwame Brown. Yao, Kobe, Gasol, Odom, and Farmar would kill the Rockets.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Folks forget that Playoff basketball is a slower paced game, and that's why someone like yao becomes more important.

    This was the weakness of the sacramento teams without webber or as he aged (as well as divacs) and even phoenix without amare and the lakers without a big man.

    The Lakers will need Gasol - and that's why San Antonio always roles this time of year because the value of duncun increases tremendously in a half-court game.

    It makes our run that much more remarkable....but it's only the playoffs that can be a measuring stick.

    None of this means anything if we don't win in the playoffs.

    But it sure does feel good today.
     
  5. steddinotayto

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    So I take it that beating we gave New Orleans a couple of weeks back with Yao in the lineup didn't mean much...
     
  6. Nice Rollin

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    i'm not saying you're bashing yao. im saying anyone who doesnt think we need a big man as talented as Yao is crazy. Right now WE NEED A BIG MAN! I dont care if we're winning. We need an inside presense. That is Yao...
    Just like we need Gasol, Howard, Amare, Bogut.....We need Yao right now. we need a big man. we'll always need a big man as long as Yao is out.

    In the end we're a jump shooting team. We'll go nowhere. I'm not saying you're bashing Yao. Im saying you gotta be an absolute dumbass to think we're better without him. Yao Ming is an absolute beast.

    Are you seriously getting exicted about wins over the pacers, grizzlies, devner, and washington??? We should blow those teams out w/o Yao. We should even beat those teams w/o mcgrady.

    YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING. I'm sorry, but you are a dumbass

    I'm not chinese. I'm not a ***. You just gotta be kidding.....our inside presense is Scola right now. Luis Scola....As much as i love Scola, I'll let him go one on one all day if im the opposing team. See how many open shots he creates....
     
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  7. Cowboy_Bebop

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    2 yrs and still a rookie. LOL! You must be the dumb poster people been making fun of. I'm not surprised.
     
  8. rofflesaurus

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    Bynum has done more in the half season he played this year than Kwame has done his entire career. Lakers would not trade a young, promising center for a slower, injury prone Yao.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    We beat Orlando on the road with Yao and minus t-mac, and almost took out New Orleans, Boston, and Denver (last two on the road). We have beaten San Antonio and New Orleans with Yao. Phoenix and Golden State with Yao (again without Tracy). We have beaten the Lakers and Utah (with Yao). We have beaten portland twice WITH Yao - on the road. We beat Detroit again....WITH YAO.

    So what elite team have we beaten WITHOUT yao?

    Dallas with Dirk? Hmmmmmm....not looking so good is it?

    Mind you - this team is a lot better than even a few weeks ago. So we need Yao less to win, but we'd still be a lot better WITH Yao.

    Get it?
     
  10. rofflesaurus

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    Gasol, Howard, and Amare dont hurt their teams. The question here is if Yao hurts this team or not, and the fact that hes a weakness when it comes to certain matchups is alarming in itself. I would LOVE Gasol on this team because hes so versatile and I think he'd fit much better with Adelman's philosphy, but thats another story.
     
  11. Glacier

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    Can't believe that this thread is still going. Some of so-called Rockets fans are acting like that they are the coach of the Rockets and thinking that Yao is the cancer in this team. Downgrading a great team player when he's out due to an unexpected injury? Can you at least respect a player when he's still in the Rockets whoever he is?

    The Rockets are doing a great job and keep rolling, which is exciting for us fans. But don't get carried away too far when the Rockets are still fighting for a better playoff position. Beautiful basketball is always good to watch. But it doesn't mean everything. The Pistons and Spurs didn't play beautiful basketball, but they won the championship that counts. Don't forget a fact that every Champion team has an interior force to win it all in the past ten years. The Lakers had O'neal, the Pistons had Ben & Rasheed and the Spurs had Robison & Duncan. Even the Heat had O'neal!

    If one can somehow say that the Rockets have a higher chance to win the Championship without Yao, then I would agree that the Rockets are a better team without him. You might say that. But think about the proved facts.
     
  12. rofflesaurus

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    We beat the Lakers without Pau and Utah without Korver. The only impressive win we've had was against the Hornets where we manhandled them on both ends of the court for 48 mins.
     
  13. Nice Rollin

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    I'll give you that. Teams can put Yao in the pick and roll....But offensivley you need that inside presense. We wouldnt even be having this conversation if we could surround Yao with shooters. Why do you think there was all the hate for Alston? He got so many open looks, and couldnt knock them down. Everyone gets open looks when Yao is int he game. He is more valuable to this team than he is a liablility. Again, Jumpshooting teams dont win in the playoffs.
     
  14. rocketman1979

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    lol Andrew Bynum is out with a left knee injury. 20 years old and he's already having problems staying healthy. Dude is also only playing 28 minutes. Its a contract year im not suprised that he's playing his potential best right now.

     
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    the ONLY IMPRESSIVE WIN?
     
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    Bynum will not be back this year. He was supposed to be back in Feb. Well here we are in March and he's not back yet. Even if he does come back he won't be at full strength and he'll be rusty. By the way Rofflesaursus, why you keep posting and getting owned is beyond me. I guess you must be a masochist because you like getting beat down.

    Rockets can't beat elite teams?

    Last I checked this season the Rockets are 2-1 against the Spurs. Stick that feather in your cap.
     
  17. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Why are you wasting your precious time discussing with this guy? Don't you know his history? His puny mindset already set in stone.
     
  18. rofflesaurus

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    Hate to burst your bubble but the Spurs are a different team come March, and beating them in January doesnt mean a whole lot.
     
  19. Nice Rollin

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    You know what will happen in the playoffs without a big man??? I dont know if yall watched the last game we lost. We didnt have Yao. No inside presense. They locked in on McGrady. We became a jumpshooting team. Steve Novak lucked up and hit a few shots to keep us in it, and in the end we got smoked....

    Just cuz yao has weaknesses doesnt make us better without him....A lot of players have weaknesses. Dirk is a b****, yet the mavs arent better without him.
     
  20. Nice Rollin

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    I hate to burst your bubble, but they have a big man....He's not a very good freethrow shooter either....so what?
     
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