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Who suffered more:the holocaust or slavery

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheBigMoe, Sep 28, 2003.

  1. Zion

    Zion Member

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    uuuumhhh!!

    LOL! :D
     
  2. Cohen

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    That seems to be the pervailing sentiment.

    Oh, and BTW, which hurts more....getting shot in the eye or the ear?
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Ridiculous. I was clearly not mocking the suffering of others, as you erroneously accused me of doing. I was providing an opinion on affirmative action. Despite your views against affirmative action, count yourself among the many who use racial bullying as an argument against those who are not for racial quotas. I provided a satirical post which furthers the point that we both agree on -- that affirmative action is a distortion to the labor market and is inherently discriminatory in its implementation. To strike down my argument relating to race as 'malicious and piggish' is nothing more than attempted racial bullying. Are all opinions that are not shared by you considered in this fashion?

    This is just your attempt at trying to provoke me and rile up those who do not share my opinions by using a racial opinion to do so. Shameful, MacBeth.
     
  4. A-Train

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    Personally, I think Rockets and Astros fans have suffered the most this year...
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I think the Jews were slaves too, no?

    DD
     
  6. rimrocker

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    The question might as well be "What's more horrific--Having your skull crushed or your head chopped off?"
     
  7. MadMax

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    Who's your favorite Ghostbuster?
     
  8. wouldabeen23

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    See: Babylonian Captivity and Ramses(I think that is the right Egyptian Dynasty)
     
  9. Nomar

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    Why do I always picture you writing your posts while furiously flipping through a thesaurus and grinning like an idiot.

    Anyway, I'm against affirmative action, welfare, and world peace. I don't think you can quantify the suffering of either the holocaust of slavery, or even decide which was worse.
     
  10. Timing

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    The Jewish guy err... I mean the black guy.
     
  11. Mrs. JB

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    Obviously, the answer is having your skull crushed.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I was thinking the same thing.

    This thread is stupid.
     
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    My attempts to build a "sufferometer" have met with limited success.

    I can get one up and running, but calibrating the thing is a pain in the ass. So far, the damned thing keeps finding more suffering in my reading this thread than all jews and blacks combined and averaged over all history. Obviously, something's wrong.
     
  14. Deji McGever

    Deji McGever יליד טקסני

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    Ok...but what if you are a falasha?
     
  15. Hippieloser

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    Hey, they were both horrific. Let's not enslave or uh... holocause anyone anymore, k, everybody?

    One horror that people tend to overlook is the Native Americans. Several distinct nations and cultures wiped off the planet. The remainder of them now live in ghetto-like reservations. The government is still taking their land, too. Anyone who's made a serious inquiry into the case of Leonard Peltier knows what I'm talking about.
     
  16. Lil

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    so true. don't forget the pograms in russia and other eastern european countries. that's mainly why so many of them immigrated here.

    From Merriam-Webster:
    Main Entry: po·grom
    Pronunciation: 'pO-gr&m, 'pä-; pO-'gräm, p&-
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Yiddish, from Russian, literally, devastation
    Date: 1903
    : an organized massacre of helpless people; specifically : such a massacre of Jews

    European antisemitism has so many elements, religious, economic, social stigmas all leading to persecution. While early American slavery was the dehumanisation of a race most whites didn't understand and didn't care to understand, anti-semitism involved the continuous persecution and prejudice against a race known for thousands of years, but hated and ostracised all the same like the gypsies. in that respect, i think European antisemitism is more akin to post-slavery segregation in America or apartheid elsewhere (e.g. SAfrica or India's untouchables).

    But i think what many here failed to mention here is in both cases (holocaust + slavery) there is a vile "untermenschen" (sub-human) concept which turns men into either 1) property/cattle or 2) vermin/pests. i think there is still a lot of this **** going on today...
     

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