I don't know how complaining the violation of the fourth amendment of the bill of rights can be called "whining"
BJ: The 5-1 bias is because we can't talk our way, blah, blah. You make no sense. This board has had this bias since it started. That's why there was a D&D forum made in the first place. This stuff pisses people off. FACT: Young people tend to vote more on the liberal side than older people FACT: Young People tend to use this computer technology more than older people. FACT: Young people tend to vocalize their new beliefs far more than older people. Surely you're not this naive? I've seen better arguments from you in the past...
Didn't Batman himself point up a 22 - 0 score on posters who defended his position in this thread (or the original thread in question)? That's a tendency of the left to pat each other on the back and goad each other on as they choke on their own glee. We at the other end of thew spectrum tend more to let illuminaries like T_J bat them away like flies...
Fat b*stard: You forgot to mention that the more educated a social group is, the more to the left it tends to lean. There's no doubt that there is an overwhelming liberal majority in this forum. I've often wondered what this is due to. The team is located in Houston so that would point more to the right. The majority of us here in the D&D are in our 20's and 30's I would assume, so that can sway either way, except for the kids still in college who would lean a little more to the left. I would think that sports/basketball fans are scattered all over the spectrum so that part is irrelevant. The only cause I can conjure is that liberals tend to be more vocal regarding their beliefs due to the fact that they are a deviation from the norm. I don't think the "status quo" on the right would be as inclined to debate. Also, and this may offend some, I don't really think social conservatism requires much thought or logical reasoning. It's more based on dogmatic set beliefs: ie: "gays shouldn't be allowed to marry - i just feel it's wrong, i don't know why." just my 2 cents.
Yes, but at the same time, the most uneducated, poor voters tend to vote Democratic as well. The NBA has the most liberal fan base of the big three sports (baseball, football). It attracts more non-white males (a heavy Republican majority) than does baseball or football. The other thing to keep in mind is that the liberals have much more outrage right now than the Republicans, since the liberals hold virtually no power in government. That prompts more liberals to feel the need to speak out. The Republicans are fat and happy, while the liberals are desperate for any kind of attention possible. But you are correct, the forum leans HEAVILY towards the Democratic side.
Same with the Republican base. They have their rich businessmen, but they also have their "white trash", religious right, etc. voters. And your argument that Republicans are "fat and happy" doesn't fly either. That argument excludes a huge portion of the Republican base that is not wealthy.
I am talking about the lowest rung of society -- the welfare momma's and the like. Those that depend on government assistance overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
Like many things I've done I will probably regret sticking my nose in this. Batman to your credit you don't lard your posts up with self-congratulatory rhetoric but I think you've gotten a little thin-skinned here. I understand that its annoying to deal with with people who are legends in their own minds and make sure you know but I think you're letting your annoyance get the best of you.
The strongest proof we have that this board is rather evenly split between liberal, conservative, and independent. link There is no liberal bias on this board.
I've always been under the impression that Bushies make up a (relatively) silent majority on this board. Most of them don't venture into the D&D though. You can see it in passing comments in the other forums, and in people who post once or twice a week in the D&D, only to state their opinion and then state how much they hate the D&D. But I don't think everyone has failed to notice how frequently someone who doesn't regularly post in the D&D will come in, express a strongly "conservative" opinion, then disappear after the thread wanes. Most of the threads have much, much higher view counts than post counts - someone is obviously reading this stuff beyond the regular posters. I'd guess that many self-indentified republican/conservative/Bush-supporters never bother looking in at all. This is actually something that occurs, from what I've seen, on many, many boards - the majority of people who post in political topics seem to have a somewhat liberal bias, though there are almost always a handful of posters with the same characteristics of someone like T_J or bigtexxx or whomever. Considering the fact that people with liberal tendencies are, apparently, in the minority (slightly) , I've always found this uneven distribution of biases in internet forums a bit mystifying. It's a very common phenomenon though.
The problem with that poll is that is merely judges number of *users*, not number of *frequent posters*. How can you read any of the political threads and not realize that the post counts which have liberal leanings greatly outnumber those with conservative leanings?
Yea, but how much of that "lowest rung" really gets out to vote or is involved in political activism? Hardly any I would say. On the contrary, the "religious right" - the right's equivalent to the "welfare momma's" on the left" turned out in droves last election and is very active in propogating its backward cause. If you cut out the lowest denominator from both sides, you're left with an overwhelming majority from the left. I would say that there are probably very few Republican voters who are actually fortunate enough to benefit from their party's policies (unless your idea of benefitting is bigotry) and even less who are actually educated enough to understand these policies.
I think TJ is right on with this. You can't really deny that the vocal majority is overwhelmingly liberal. When examining the *users" over all though, it evens out.
I would ask for a recount, if not for the fact that 1: this whole thing is kind of weird. 2: the inevitable jokes about the 2002 election
im not trying to defend anyone who says that ALL catholics are bigots - thats just a silly thing to say. kind of like saying ALL liberals support terrorists, hate christmas, ect. i think there is a difference between calling someone a bigot and calling policy bigoted. i agree that the policies of the church are indeed bigoted against homosexuals. i dont like it personally and i dont think jesus would either, but what am i supposed to do about it? renounce my catholocism? how does he leave no room for debate? did he post OWNED or something?
