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Who is to blame for Eddie disaster?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by benzman501, Oct 26, 2003.

  1. swilkins

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    amen
     
  2. montevideo

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    Weighing in on the Eddie Griffin issue, if anyone is reading.

    Buck stops with Eddie and his family/friends.

    However...

    ...If Rockets are a world class organization, and as most world class organiztions place a value on the 'Rockets Family', especially members in whom they have a significant investment, and have policies which incorporate those values then - they have FAILED so far in Eddie's case. Which is not to say that it is the Rockets fault, but only that their policies have not prevented the failure of a very high cost and high rist investment.

    If the Rockets do not have such policies or beliefs or guidelines, then they are not a world class organization, yet.

    If anyone or any organization thinks they can throw $3M at a 19 yo kid and, drop him in the NBA and watch him grow into a star all on his own, they are halucinating and needing serious help.

    At risk of repeating myself. Buck stops with Eddie.

    My $.10
     
  3. MadMax

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    i'm totally kidding...and in truth, i am a lawyer. a sarcastic one at that. :)
     
  4. MadMax

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    then is there any sports franchise which is a world class organization?? because i see these problems throughout every league in every sport.
     
  5. bamaslammer

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    Eddie is at fault because Eddie and only Eddie:
    doesn't show up for work.
    smokes bud and is stupid enough to get caught doing it.
    (allegedly) beats women.
    hangs out with the wrong crowd.
    In the Bible, it says that we have our agency, our own ability to recognize right and wrong and ultimately, the choice is up to us.
    EG has made all the wrong choices. The Rox made a huge mistake in not investigating his background more thoroughly, because the danger signs were there in his only season of college ball.
     
  6. dback816

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    What EG needs now is help, weather he likes it or not :mad:

    Or we can just blame it on Morgan Freeman.
     
  7. ima_drummer2k

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    Well, it rained all weekend here in Houston, but it's starting to clear up now. I hope he likes it clear and mild...
     
  8. JoeBarelyCares

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    I blame "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
     
  9. B-Bob

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    Well, that was a post after my own annoying heart.
    It seriously made my day.
     
  10. mleahy999

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    EG is just a dumb POS. Aside from the drugs, bad temper, and the wrong crowd, what business does he have being a father at 21? He's too dumb to use a rubber. Why would you want be a father that young? Plus having a child out of wedlock. Idiot.

    He's lucky that his basketball "talent" and wealth takes care much of his problems, otherwise he would be just another waste of space. EG deserves no sympathy. He's lucky. Without hoops, he's just a tall cashier at BK.
     
  11. TECH

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    Yeah, and nobody would know or care who he is. There are situations like this everywhere, we just don't know about it.
    To me, Eddie is just another man, and he is responsible for his own life.
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    Some of you sound as if the well being of a person is dependant on some form of organization meddling into that person's business. It sounds like political philosophy, that people are inherently unable to take care of themselves.
    SOME people fit that bill. If a person isn't intelligent enough to get help when he needs it, then who are we to point fingers at others for what they could or should have done?
    You might as well sign up for communism and brain washing.

    Eddie is responsible for his own life. Sorry if the truth hurts some of you, but Eddie Griffin is just another man out there with problems. He's nothing special. So stop trying to fool yourself into believing that Eddie is the victim of others negligence....
     
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    If Eve had never taken a chunk out of that apple... women:)
     
  13. mamojama

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    Eddie, Eddie, Eddie..

    That's me saying Eddie is to blame and simultaneously shaking my head in dismay.

    It seems the popular opinion is Eddie himself is to blame. Well, Eddie AND Frank Stallone. However, this thread of thought is tainted by the idea that the lack of intervention by others (teammates, the Rocket's organization, greenpeace, PETA) has led to his downfall.

    Small problem. It is not the Rocket's or anyone else's responsbility to babysit a 21 year old man. Granted, their lack of doing so may be considered an oversight, since their investment may go down the drain, but it is not their RESPONSIBILITY. A case may be made for Seton Hall's responsiblity to teach Eddie the ways of the world. Their task might be to take a babe from high school and transform him into a man, but then what do we say of those who choose to forego college? Is their life preparation suspect? I don't think so. And even if Seton Hall were to provide an easier transition, Eddie left with the job unfinished; ultimately his decision.

    It is impossible to lay the blame on a single entity. Growing up, Eddie has probably not had to work hard for what he now has. He has immense physical talents, and it came easy to him. That's not to say he never had it hard, but he never did in basketball. He grew accustomed to the adoration of his fans and the privileges it afforded him. Accountability became a thing of the past, and now this attitude catches up to him.

    Is this blaming society? Is it society's fault when athletes lose their sense of accountability and it bites them in the rear? Only if every athlete were to act this way...or even most. But most don't, and nobody can be blamed for having a few screws lose than the owner of the screwdriver, and that's Eddie. Maybe Eddie's family, if he was maladjusted as a teenager, but it seems to me that Eddie alone is responsible for plotting his collision course with disaster, beginning when he LEFT home.

    So what do we do with Eddie? He's got money...go see a shrink. I'm sure the Rockets will even pay for it, though again, it's not their responsiblity. Get your act together before Christmas, or the next dose of accountability (beyond suspension) when be swift in coming.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    SJC,

    Very funny !

    :)

    As the answer to your question, Eddie is ultimately responsible for his own actions.

    However, the Rockets could have done a much better job of protecting their investment by having a better program for him.

    DD
     
  15. Roc Paint

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    Leslie Alexander's dog.
     
  16. HillBoy

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    This is going to sound harsh but the last time I looked the Rockets were a professional basketball team and not a social service organization. At season's end, all who post here will judge the success or failure of the team on one criteria - wins and losses.

    As I see it, nothing that EG has done both on and off the court can be considered conductive to the success of this team. In my book that makes him a liability the Rockets simply cannot afford any longer. Considering the fact that the team pissed away three 1st round draft picks to get this guy makes the situation all the more unfortunate for everyone concerned.
     
  17. DallasThomas

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    The problem with these theories of blame origin is that Eddie's a Churchgoer of the Scientology type.




    But seriously; when Hakeem would fast during the Muslim month of Ramadan, religion was relevant in this forum. When Eddie went schizo and beat the "hell" out of his girlfriend, it wasn't. Not to be a jerk, but this kinda irked me. Maybe I misread y'all though.
     

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