Try to label Chinese fans are EITHER Rockets fans OR Yao-only fans is silly. These two camps of fans are not static. Just as another poster point out: Given time, Yao-only fan from China will gradually convert into Rockets fans, when they know more about our team. <B> I have no doubt W&S was Yao-only fan, when she start posting in this BBS last summer. I doubt you were really piss off by her posts then. </B>
I am really flattered. No.1 Yao-Only-Fan, me? Wow, I really like that. Thank you. Millions applogies if I offended someone here. GO GO GO Yao Ming!!!
<blockquote><hr>Originally posted by njsun Try to label Chinese fans are EITHER Rockets fans OR Yao-only fans is silly. </B> <hr></blockquote> hey, man. Whether you like it or not, "bandwagon" is a long time label in America for fans who have fleeting motives for rooting for a team. Whether you like it or not, many of the Chinese bandwagoners have ulterior (not based on being an NBA fan) or fleeting motives for rooting for Yao Mings current team. But those bandwagonners don't really bother me; it is the strange bandwagonners who have said that they regret Yao Ming becoming a Rocket. If you knew the history of the NBA #1 picks, you would understand that it is weird for fans of a superstar player to say his team is holding him down. Superstars only hold themselves down. Everything else is an excuse. I have nothing against many Chinese fans here, and have cheered with many of them. But there is no doubt in my mind that a rather large minority have ulterior motives for posting here beyond being an NBA or Rockets fan. It is a strange phenomenon, but it exist. I've been around United States pro sports enough to know when a strange fan phenomenon is occuring.
Maybe the fans of those #1 picks were groaning, just not on this national scale. Instead of picking up a player with a fan-base of college proportions, we picked a player with the fan base of an entire country. I remember some Kansas Jayhawk fans being mad that the Clippers got the #1 pick for Manning. Problem is...nobody in the USA cares what a couple of Jayhawk fans are harping about and they couldn't make a dent even in this forum. But then, we have the golden baskeball boy of China in our arms. The rules of the game have changed. Add to the fact that he's the first Asian player with the potential to be a superstar in the NBA, you don't just have China on the Rocket's back, you got the entire community. There are idiot Yao-only fans out there but there are some good Yao-only fans who suggest this team sticks together.
Yes, I support it! And I think most newbie/Chinese will support it too. Actually, if I name the term that Yao joins "A" ( now is Rox), If Yao get a good stat and A win, I am very happy. If Yao get a good stat and A lost, I am lost but still comfort myself that Yao is good still. If Yao get a poor stat and A win, I am happy and hope Yao will rise next game. If Yao get a poor stat and A lost, oh, my god, I can say nothing.
I am a Yao Ming fan who converted to being a Rox fan but I don't get much pleasure if Yao puts up big numbers and the team loses. After all, part of being a great player is enabling one's team to get to the next level. What use is a great player if all he does is put up great numbers night after night without impacting the team's overall competitiveness and standing? That is what is great about Yao, he makes the Rockets a better "team" to watch and cheer for.
Here is an example of the answer to the question W&S posed: http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?threadid=47903 I've voiced my support to a lot of new posters who is a primaryly a Yao fan, however, it gets annoying after a while. I've had my nomination in this thread also. My guess is he gets banned by Clutch. I don't like the term "yao-only-fans", but these people exists. they can wish Yao gets one more rebound to get to the Double-double even if teh price is Rockets' lost. Some are not even Yao only fans, they are just ignorant of the Rockets history and players. They say Yao Ming is THE leader on the team NOW. They would wish Yao plays for BS, NY, CH etc (No, He won't be more successful over the long run there). Like many things in life, the problem is not he opinion, it's the attitude. It's not only what you say, but also how you say it--that earn you the lable. michecon
I think there is nothing wrong to be a yao-only fan at all is this thread suggesting that yao-only fans(Chinese) , i dunt think there are any american yao only fans , stop posting here?? Banned all the yao-only fans then if this is what u people want i am sure half of the poster will be gone. Do i have have to be a what so called a true rocket fans or basketball fans or a true fans by your standard to post here n express my opinion!!!??? can i be a fan who care about yao-only n post here?? if not please tell me so i stop posting here! back then i loved micheal jordan when they win the championship n i was a bulls fans i recorded everygame from 96-97 but do i have to like luc longley in that team ??? it is the same if i am a rocket fans do i have to like everybody on this rocket team to be a what so called true fan?? Here is an example, if i suggest to trade moochie cuz he dunt pass yao the ball then ppl will agreee with me but if i suggest to trade stevie francis becuz i feel he dunt pass yao the ball then i will be called yao-only fans right!!!!!! double standard!!! One way maybe can solve the problem is make a yao-only forum for yao-only fans to post there !!!!!
I was a Dr J fan but not really a fan of the Sixers. I think it is fine to be a Yao fan first and foremost, but there is something that fans of Yao who do not particularly care for the Rockets need to understand: THIS IS A ROCKETS BOARD, NOT A YAO MING BOARD. If you want to come here and talk about Yao, as long as he is a Rocket, by all means. But, understand that if he left or was traded or whatever, this board would continue to exist and we would very likely not discuss Yao except in the NBA forum or when he played against the Rockets. Keeping that in mind, anyone who comes in here and has interest only in the success of Yao the player and not the Rockets should FULLY EXPECT to get hammered on every possible occassion they mention that fact or allude to that fact. If I were a fan of Kobe Bryant and I went on the Lakers board and spent my time there talking about how terrible the Lakers would be without Kobe and how Shaq is holding Kobe back, I'm sure they'd be pretty pissed at me as well. If you don't want to deal with this, my suggestion is that you start a Yao Ming BBS and post all day long there. If you want to talk Rockets and Yao Ming as a PLAYER FOR THIS TEAM, then, by all means, have at it. I have nothing but love for Yao. The guy is simply amazing and he is rapidly becoming my favorite player. But, the attitude that Houston didn't exist until he walked onto the floor at the Compaq Center is more than a little annoying to those of us who have watched this team win since they moved here in the early 70's. When Yao does eventually leave, and I sincerely believe that will be via retirement MANY years from now, the Rockets will continue to exist and succeed and fail just like now. Yao is neither the be-all nor the end-all of the Rockets, the NBA or basketball. He is a wonderful player I hope to have the priveledge to watch in a Rockets uni for many more years, just like I do Steve Francis, just like I did Hakeem and Calvin Murphy and Robert Reid and Moses Malone and Clyde Drexler, etc, etc. Try to remember that this board is ABOUT THE TEAM FIRST, other wise it would be WeLoveYaoMing.net, not ClutchCity.net.
i am from China, i focus on the nba for more than 5 years. but was yao take me in here may be i should say, the person i most care in rockets is yao.
You are kidding me. This "Kenny" on your list is Kenny Thomas, right? If yes, I would say you are a "Yao-only-fan" I guess the only reason you voted Cat and Kenny All-Star is because they are teammates of Yao.
If you have reached this post and dont understand the longtime Rockets fan's frustration, go back and re-read Jeff's explanation. Dont skip it, read it and try to put yourself in his place...then you will uinderstand the current attitude here. I hope everyone can come to an understanding, but like life, I have my doubts.
Hey, W&S, dont forget the "old-rox-mediocre" Fans, the people who can't take any constructive criticism and the people who stuck on the past 3-year mediocrity, refusing to improve and to achieve higher team potentials. It is just so sad...
No, it's not valid to have a meltdown about the # of shots Yao took after he contributed to a hard-fought victory. It's makes it seem like Yao's performance is more important than the team's success, hence the definition of a 'Yao-Only' fan. FWIW, I would like to see Yao get about 12-15 attempts per game as well, and I've always been annoyed when other Rockets start dominating the ball. But then again, just about everyone on this entire board feels the same way. So is it really necessary to start thread after thread after thread whining about it?
<blockquote><hr>Originally posted by derrock I remember some Kansas Jayhawk fans being mad that the Clippers got the #1 pick for Manning.<hr></blockquote> Moaning about who got the pick doesn't necessarily translate to continuing to moan as the season begins. For instance, a lot of Duncan fans wanted the Celtics to get that pick, they had the most balls. Thing is, Manning was no superstar, and Duncan was. btw: I purposely said superstar. There are not to many selections like Yao Ming through the years. The Chinese bandwagonners who are regretting that Yao is in Houston need to understand that no great NBA center has ever needed to be traded to take his team to the finals.... George Mikan--Chicagoin NBL, then Lakers in NBA Jabbar--Milwaukee Russell-Celtics Wes Unseld--Bullets Dave Cowens--Celtics Wilt--Philly/San Fran Warriors Willis Reed--Knicks Bill Walton--Portland Moses Malone--Houston 1st team out of ABA Ewing--NY Hakeem--Rockets Duncan/Robinson--Spurs out of those guys, they all got to the Finals with their original team, and all but Ewing won a title, and only two had to be traded to break through juggernauts. Wilt vs the Russell, and Moses vs the Bird/Magic. The history of the NBA shows that the best centers can always take their original team to the finals, and most often win unless pitted against a dynasty or Hakeem Olajuwon. But their fans rarely if ever say they should be on a different team. <b>bottomline</b>: History shows that whining about your idol being on the wrong team is an excuse that the best superstars don't use.
