I knew I would take crap for saying the Beatles. I just have never really liked their music. McCartney was all right, but I think there have been others who are as good but without the credit. As for Harrison and Star, I have not seen such coattail riding since Snottie Quitten picked up six championship rings. I think the problem with the question is that the quality of bands is so subjective. I personally cannot listen to Country or Rap, but many people love this music. I also am not a big fan of a lot of the drug culture music ala Pink Floyd, the Doors, and the Greatful Dead. So because I do not like the Beatles and because they are heralded basically as God's gift to R&R music, they must in my opinion be the most overrated. If anyone else likes the Beatles ( and judging by their record sales, someone must) more power to them. One thing to consider, have you ever noticed the remarkable similarity between the Beatles early audiences and the Backstreet Boys audience. Watch for it the next time they have some behind the music deal. Finally, I may have been a little harsh when I said 3/4 of the band had no talent. But IMO onle Lennon had talent even approaching the hype, which was the basis of the question. Not which bands suck, but which are overrated. I think Pearl Jam is underrated for example, because they are rarely mentioned without the word Nirvana in the same sentence, even though Pearl Jam had a much more Stadium Rock style than Nirvana. ------------------ What's a Nubian?
I like the majority of the bands on this list and my personal favorite, metallica made it. Now, i beg to differ that they havent done anything worthwhile since ride the lightning, i know people think the black album, load, reload and s and m are bad but i dont see it. In my opinion a great band is one who makes quality slow and fast songs, Metallica fits the criteria with songs like Enter Sandman, Until it Sleeps, the Unforgiven, Nothing Else Matters and the list goes on. As for the Napster thing, I dont care about a bands private life and also consider while yes they have millions of dollars at their disposal its their right to decide whether people can get their work(music) for free, and napster didnt get their permission first. I dont think either side was right in that, but I dont hold that against them and I went to the Dallas show last summer and it was AWESOME!! So, while these bands may be overrated most of them are very good groups in my opinion and I own many of their cds, especially those of Metallica ------------------ How Sweet It Is! How Sweet It Is! Gene Peterson on the rockets winning the 1995 championship over the Orlando Magic
I like some of Lenny's work, but come on now -- dude is SO overrated. People talk like he's such a great guitar player, but he's really nothing special. And MOST of his songs are covers. I had that "Greatest Hits" album. It was almost entirely covers, and it was really pretty lame. ------------------ I'm looking for a job, so hire me "And I just have to smile and say 'well, I hope so' while I'm really thinking inside how I'd like to just strangle them and take their job."
The Beatles made music what it is today. To even mention the Frontstreet Girls in the same sentence as the Beatles is ridiculous. Do they even know how to play an instrument? Jeff, Couldn't agree with you more on the Phish and Pink Floyd and Grateful Dead. Has anyone ever been to any concerts by these three bands? I thought I was at an opera. Geez, talk about boring. Dave Matthews is WAY overated. Every song sounds the same. Boring. Nirvana is what rock-n-roll is all about, rebellion. How can you possibly say they are overated? Since Cobain died, we now have Britney Spears, Backalley girls and other crap. fadeaway, Prince overated? Do you know how good of a musician this guy is? Hydra, Name me one band as good as the Beatles. ------------------ "For there is nothing either good or bad, thinking makes it so." - William Shakespeare (1564-1616), Hamlet
I totally agree with the Beatles. They may have been the most imaginative and creative band ever. Many of their songs would have been hits today. Pink Floyed? They are great. I can sit and listen to David Gilmore play the guitar all night. I saw them in 87 I think, in the astrodome and they were unbaleivable. They were better before Roger Watters left the band but still Awesome none the less. I like Dave Mathews Band but did not relize that so many thought that they were such a great band. I think they are good but certainly not in the same class as some of the great bands in history. ------------------
I totally agree with the Beatles. They may have been the most imaginative and creative band ever. Many of their songs would have been hits today. Pink Floyed? They are great. I can sit and listen to David Gilmore play the guitar all night. I saw them in 87 I think, in the astrodome and they were unbaleivable. They were better before Roger Watters left the band but still Awesome none the less. I like Dave Mathews Band but did not relize that so many thought that they were such a great band. I think they are good but certainly not in the same class as some of the great bands in history. ------------------
Just to provide some defense against the DMB, Grateful Dead, Phish criticism. I would say that all of these are jam-bands, and border-line Rock and Roll. The thing about jam-bands is that most people don't like them. It's just something you're into or you're not. For instance, I have a 27 minute "Two Step" from a DMB concert in '00 that is absolutely incredible. I *LOVE* it. But most people would be like "WTF!! 27 minutes for one freaking song!!" But if you're a jam-band fan, the longer the better. It's just something that's a very acquired taste, and most people dislike it. The specific thing about DMB is that it has become commercially popular. The thing is, I don't think most people who say they're "fans" are really very big fans. They're the 13 year old "Crash" teenieboppers who will not be into DMB in a few years. I think the commercial success has caused some people to be a little resentful. Even in the jam-band community there is some resentment. Kindof like "what's so special about this group?" But it's something that you don't get unless you "GET" it. ------------------ I'm looking for a job, so hire me "And I just have to smile and say 'well, I hope so' while I'm really thinking inside how I'd like to just strangle them and take their job."
I know **** about jazz... but I'll say Miles Davis. I don't know if I just have been exposed to his neurotic trash jazz, hell I consider Coltrane's Mars better than the Miles Davis crap I've listened too... and Mars makes me run around like a stoned kitty and crap in the closet. I guess I'm more of a traditionalist (Blakey, Jimmy Smith, Ella, Cassandra, Coltrane, etc.). BTW, if anyone's looking for a good "lifetime" band, pick up the Innocence Mission(Canadian melancholy pop???)... I know I talk about them every few months, but **** Umbrella is a good album(if you disagree w/ me, you suck and you have no soul and you'll probably die lonely).
Ah well, to each his (or her) own. The temptation I mentioned above is still killing me, but I just don't feel like referencing every post in this thread that I thought was nuts, so I'll just touch on a few: The Backdoor Boys have no business being mentioned in the same sentence as the Beatles, and I don't really care for the Beatles that much. My gripe with the current pop bands like Britney Spears, Backdoor Boys, et al is all the lip synching crap that goes on. They put the music senond to the show, and they continue to call themselves musicians. They are more about the show than anything with all their dancing to recorded music while they pretend to sing. As for Metallica, I still love them. Their old stuff (pre-Load) anyway. They rocked all the way up through the Black album. I was at that Dallas show last year (both of them) and they rocked SO hard. I can't understand how any metal fan could say they sucked after Ride the Lightning. Justice rocks so hard its (usually) my favorite Metallica album. As for Guns n Roses, Appetite for Destruction rocked cover to cover, IMO. That's all for now, folks. ------------------ "I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy from getting on that plane." --Ozzy Osbourne on guitarist Randy Rhodes [This message has been edited by Lynus302 (edited July 14, 2001).]
damn I didn't even notice that Hydra compared the Beatles to the Backstreet Boys. The Backstreet Boys were never subjected to any bull**** monarchy! America! America! U. S. A. U. S. A. U. S. A. U. S. A. When will the suffering stop! Free A.J.!!! Get well soon A.J. Hugs & Kisses (the manly european kind). ------------------ Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen...
I'll just ignore all the anti-DMB sentiments being echoed here...I'm thinking of going to The Rocket Guy though. Vengeance is right on though. I love my 20 minute version of #41, and I can't wait until Tuesday night when I'm on the 8th row in San Antonio. You all can bite me. My votes: Radiohead after The Bends The Eagles Michael Jackson Nirvana The Beatles...most of their stuff, in my unknowledgeable opinion, sounds exactly like most of the other stuff of the day, some of their stuff I love The Doors ------------------ When you make an assumption, you make an ass out of Uma Thurman.
How about Pearl Jam, Madonna, Dave Matthews Band, Green Day, and Elvis. ------------------ What's a Nubian?
First -- to defend DMB!! all their music sounds alike??? are you serious??? just listen to one cd, "these crowded streets"...each song is radically different. particularly different is Last Stop (track 3) which has a middle eastern feel to it. DMB fuses jazz with a sort of world beat...their lyrics are amazing. their drummer is arguably the best in the business right now...DMB's music reminds me a ton of Sting's. Very eclectic with lots of different influences. You may not like them...but to say all their music sounds alike?? come on!! DMB will still be playing for another 20 years...and I'll still be going to their concerts! Jeff- I totally agree on Pearl Jam. Like you, I really like some of their music..obviously, Ten is my favorite. But the early comparisons to the Doors and Eddie Vedder to Jim Morrison remind me of early comparisons of the XFL to the NFL! Not even close! The hype around that band in the early 90's was just ridiculous! Someone else said David Bowie..I think I agree with that too. Longevity doesn't necessarily equal greatness in the music industry. I like some of his stuff...but not sure he is what he is often billed to be. ------------------
DUDE, some of y'all are delusional. There is a HUGE difference between getting old and sucking and being "overrated". You can put Aerosmith's first 4 to 5 albums against ANY other band's first few albums, and you won't find any better. Just because they turned 50 and can't rock cover-to-cover anymore doesn't mean they're overrated... at least not the entire career. If you are saying Aerosmith, in the present, then maybe you have an argument. But, to discount what they did in the past is a sin, it's a sin, Beethoven never hurt anyone..... Same goes for Metallica. I love all their albums from Garage Days and before. I'm not saying that didn't put out any good songs, just that their albums as a whole weren't near as good. Ride the Lightning, Kill 'Em All, Master of Puppets, and Garage Days, now that's good heavy metal. Appetite For Destruction absolutely ROCKED from 1st song to the last. I list it as my #1 rock album of all time, for the pure kick ass sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll attiude and tunes. ------------------ DREAMer's Rocket Page
I disagree - you don't even know **** about jazz. From the late 1940s until his death in the early 1990s, Miles was responsible for kickstarting just about every important movement in jazz, including cool jazz, hard bop, modal jazz, and fusion. At least three of his albums - Birth of the Cool, Kind of Blue, and b****es Brew - are considered among the top 10 of best and most influential jazz albums ever, and many of his other albums are widely regarded as classics. He played with nearly every important jazz musician (Bird, Trane, Bill Evans, Cannonball Adderly, Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Tony Williams - just to name a few) and by playing with Miles, many of these artists were then able to establish themselves as solo artist. Finally, Miles wrote some of the most beautiful music I've ever heard. Simply put, Miles Davis was one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century. If you want to talk about overrated jazz musicians, try Wynton Marsalis. Why they give a Pulitzer to someone who has never evolved beyond the stylistic approaches of his influences is beyond me. ------------------
I can't believe some of you are putting Nirvana as over rated?! Of course it was timing, thats how all this history is made,Beatles(greatest timing ever), Elvis ( great timing for the white America), Santana (wow, what a NEW sound that was at Woodstock, perfect timing) etc... anyhow, Nirvana rocks and Kurt wrote some good $hit and ya'll are wik-wik-wak! Most over rated group of all time are all these talentless Boy bands. I remember watching Entertainment tonite once and they were interviewing one of the Backstreet Kids asking them, "How do you feel when they compare you to the Beatles"? WHAT?! Who compares them? Entertainment Tonite? Beatles were in a major prolific creative binge for SEVERAL years, writing/playing their own songs and music. Beatles were major, major, talent. These Kids make me sick. ------------------ This space left intentionally blank...
If you think some of the Beatles' stuff sounds a lot like what you hear today, there's a reason for it. They invented the sound. Everyone else is just a cheap knockoff. Miles Davis kicked ass, too. ------------------ Gascon
On David Bowie -- this guy was amazing. He would make a successful album, then totally change his look, sound, everything for the next one, at the risk of his popularity and sales. He did not care about commercial success. The guy was just so versatile. ------------------ "I guess that's YOUR theory"
Here's one that'll probably piss some people off: Stevie Ray Vaughn Yes he was a talented guitar player who died before his time, but for me at times he sounded a little too much like his influences. Comments on bands previously mentioned: Pink Floyd I know alot people associate them with getting high on something and listening to their music. That's funny because that's one of the reasons Roger Waters wrote "The Wall" I think they were very talented musicians who wrote very intelligent lyrics about life experiences and the human mind. I put the bong down 6 years ago and I still think they're a great band. Pearl Jam Again, good music with good lyrics. They would influence bands that came after them such as STP and Creed. ------------------
Originally posted by Caddmann: Are f*cking NUTS??!?!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!? I mean, * I'm just sitting here sputtering! The "blackest white man" BB King ever saw sounds too much like his influences? Only a handful of guitar players have any business being mentioned in the same sentence as Stevie Ray. Overrated??? WTF???!?!?!?!?!?! [[[[[Of course, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. Unless it disagrees with my own, of course. And unless you are obviously smoking crack.]]]]] ------------------ "I have no regrets except that I wasn't up to keep Randy from getting on that plane." --Ozzy Osbourne on guitarist Randy Rhodes
