Who is the better QB prospect - Vince Young or Matt Leinart?

Stephen "friggin'" McGee

This is good.

http://people.tamu.edu/~andymac67/mcgee.htm

 

Tsk, tsk. I never said Young was better than Leinart. I was defending Young's passing ability, which has been dragged through the mud by the haters with absolutely no factual basis as support.

BTW, McNeal has 24 passes for 20 yards or more this season (in one less game).

EDIT: D'oh! I meant McNeal.

 

Oh, that's a fair assessment. While we're at it why don't we compare David Carr vs. Peyton Manning. Get a life!

Hey, the bottom line is VY was outplayed by a redshirt freshman, Stephen McGee. I only hope that if VY comes back, like he says he will, that his team is anniliated by Stephen and Co.

Gig'Em

 

Hey, IC2000 claimed McNeal was better than Young. I'm just throwing that number out there. *shrug*

 

An Aggie who thinks VY is overrated?

 

Actually, that's 1 NC and a Heisman, not sure why you keep on adding another, LSU won the NC, USC won the RoseBowl just like Texas did last season.

But of course, Leinart must be the much better player since he gets more exposure on Sports Center right Bigtexx?

Once again, trying to spin words to make every poster that likes VY a homer. The fact is that Young is the 3rd highest QB in terms of rating and is completing 63% of his passes, his team is 11-0 and headed for the RoseBowl. While Leinart is obviously the better passer, it's hard saying who is the better QB since they are so different.

Bottom line is that ya'll lost and have lost to us 6 times in a row. I just can't believe there are Aggs out there still trying to talk trash. 5-6, no Bowl, got an unbelievable beat down from Iowa St. and your coach made the absolute worst mistake of the entire season on the first game.

Don't know why they still call this matchup a rivalry. 107 games played: 73 wins for the Horns, 34 for the Aggs, sounds like something else to me.

McGee looked good out there, I will admit that. But as bad as we played, we still beat ya'll by 11 points.

 

BS, those guys don't have hands.

 

Actually, it's because he does have two national championships. USC won the national championship for the 2003 season, LSU (#2) beat Oklahoma to win the BCS title game. It's really not USC's fault that the number one team in the nation was excluded from the opportunity to beat one of those two teams.

Also, there is a pretty good chance that if USC wins the Rose Bowl this year, Leinart will be considered the greatest college quarterback of all time.

Young is an outstanding ball player, but right now he is not on the same level as Leinart. If the national championship game is played between USC & UT and the Longhorns win, then there can be a pretty good argument made on Young's behalf, but right now, no.

 

i disagree entirely. the rules are the rules. they all sign off to play under the BCS system. they said that the BCS rankings would determine their national champion. and according to those rules, it did....and LSU was the champion.

 

The rules are the rules, that is why the coaches poll had to change their votes to LSU, the AP was under no such obligation & hence, did not. The BCS was created to match the number one ranked team in the nation against the number two, that one particular year, it did not. The number one team did not play in the BCS championship game. That team did not lose the Rose Bowl and remained number one, the national champs.

 

Let us remember that the system was designed to get rid of human bias which I'm sure is the reason USC was in the #1 position that year. It's not like they were undefeated that year.

 

So they didn't play in the Championship game, they didn't get the trophy, and it still counts as a NC?

So what does that make LSU?

 

Until there's a playoff, the national championship is decided by whomever is at the top of the polls at the end of the season. The BCS didn't change that - it had one purpose: bring the top two teams together. The Coaches agreed to make the winner of that game the #1 team in their poll. Note that the poll is still the important part. It isn't that the winner of the game was the national champ - it's that the winner of the game gets the #1 spot in the poll.

The AP had no such affiliation. So as has happened many times before - Texas included - teams claim national titles when they win at least one of the polls. USC and LSU split the national title 2 years ago just as Michigan and Nebraska did in 1997 (?). They both can and will claim a national title that year. It's the unfortunate way its done without a playoff and official national title.

 

As I stated earlier, the point of the system was not to get rid of human bias, the point of the system was to get the top two teams to play in a game to determine who the best team in the nation was. The system failed that year. Also, it's not like LSU was undefeated that year either.

Yep. Major is exactly right.

 

Ah, yes, the predictable response. Well, they don't seem to record YAC or Y@C stats in college. So, let's take my stats a step further and remove all passes 20 yards or more to all running backs, as they are most likely not catching the ball 20 yards or more downfield. Here, now, are the new totals:

Leinart - 31 passes (8 of the 39 went to RBs)
Young - 38 passes (10 of the 48 went to RBs)

So, 13.3% of Leinart's passes to WRs were for over 20 yards or more, and 22.6% of Young's passes to WRs were for over 20 yards or more.

 

Apparently, only Vince's receivers run after the catch.

 

Wow. I'm speechless.