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Who is next? GM and Ford?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pirc1, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

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    Only if you want a gallon of milk to cost you $100 ;)
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Dude said he worked for Volkswagen though and they aren't that expensive.
     
  3. robbie380

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    Lean production baby....its the best way to mass produce. the people at toyota invented it and that's why they make the best cars.
     
  4. tigermission1

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    Really? I always had this impression that VW's are the most overpriced pieces of junk around
     
  5. real_egal

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    Do you think GM, Ford and Chrysler will have mercy on you, if they could charge any higher? When your cost is high but quality is not that high to price higher, you will lose in competition.
     
  6. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Hear hear. One of the segments my company operates has over 50% union and we hear them complain all the time about how bad things are or how they don't have "enough". We just laugh because we know that those guys really don't realize how good they have it.
     
  7. rrj_gamz

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    I hear what your saying...Btw, VW's aren't that cheap and you helped confirm that...I went to the State Fair (Dallas) and they had the auto show there...I wasn't surprised by how expensive cars are, but more so for Chevy's, Ford's, Dodge P/U's being list for $40K...Yeah, it's sticker, but still, the price is way to high for a low quality product...What the hell do people do to afford this...Work at a GM factory?
     
  8. HayesStreet

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    American pickups aren't low quality. The way many of them are outfitted now, they're freaking luxury cars.
     
  9. wnes

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    If American auto companies offer the kind of warranties seen from Korean car makers, I'd not hesitate to buy Americans.
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    It would initially, but it could shift our services towards higher quality than relying on limited quantity in supply that will eventually be offshored to India or China.

    I'm not saying they should give them away, rather that they remove the barriers of entry that could create a multiclassed system.
     
  11. tigermission1

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    They offer much better warranties than the Japanese, that's for sure (check Chrysler, GM)
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    just because you didn't go to college doesn't mean you don't have a right to make a comfortable living. And I'm sure these people have some education, you don't bounce out the womb and immediately go work on an auto assembly line.
     
  13. real_egal

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    Exactly, we are all greedy. We all want more, in or not in union, with or without college degrees. I just don't think a degree should get you multiple times more income than those without, normally. Unless you can jusitfy it by your contribution. However, I tend to believe that most of us, including most of those management can't say their input/output is proportional to those average workers. Besides, if everyone had a college education, those so proud elite class might end up in assembly lines:)
     
  14. RIET

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    Their wages are not dictated by market conditions. In a competitive market environment, factory workers would be making $30k at most.

    There are millions of people with college degrees who earn less and yet are much brighter and more productive than these people.

    In my opinion, the Union's threats to strike is not only ludicrous but obscene.

    If the company goes bankrupt because of their greed, they deserve everything that's coming to them.

    I for one do not want to subsidize their artificially inflated pensions plans. They will cost hard working Americans (who are working in fair market conditions) dollars out of their pockets and food out of their children's mouths. These auto workers make more than most teachers (many of whom have master's degrees).

    We complain about China's ridiculous currency fixing and yet we have the equivalent of in our country with these auto workers unions.

    Learn a skill or starve or go to Canada.
     
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  15. pirc1

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    Do the union wokers fix their wages to be below market value? :eek:
     
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