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Who has been worst president in last 50 years?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, May 8, 2008.

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Worst President?

  1. Eisenhower

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    0.0%
  2. Kennedy

    2.1%
  3. Johnson

    1.4%
  4. Nixon

    4.9%
  5. Ford

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  6. Carter

    16.2%
  7. Reagan

    0.7%
  8. Bush 1

    1.4%
  9. Clinton

    4.2%
  10. Bush 2

    69.0%
  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    Reagan
    Ketchup is a Vegetable
    Iran Contra
    Sleezy back room dealing with the Hostage holders to keep them until after the election :D

    His influence made Bush I and II possible

    Rocket River
     
  2. thumbs

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    Maybe, maybe no. I have no idea how he will be graded. Currently, IMO we are too close to the situation to be objective and/or fair. He has disappointed me, and I voted for him. I am saying, though, it's just too early to judge.

    BTW, I could care less how you rate my "vast experience." I was lucky enough to have witnessed bits of history first hand. I have disagreements with a lot of posters, but that does not lessen my respect for them. However, when someone becomes sarcastic, I am not defenseless.
     
  3. rimrocker

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    Funny. I don't remember that happening with Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, or Clinton.

    Do either one of you have a link?
     
  4. Rashmon

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    As an observer of history, you should then recognize Carter's peace accord between Israel and Egypt alone, within historical context, would preclude his ranking below Bush 1 or 2.

    Where would you rank the peace accords, as a presidential accomplishment of the last 50 years?
     
  5. rhester

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    Here is what I would like in our next president-

    1. Brutally honest- to a fault
    2. Very compassionate towards all people- spending most of the time building relationships with people from all spectrums.
    3. A Leader! Someone who can energize the populace to care for one another. Not looking for government to solve problems but turning to neighbors to care for neighbors.
    4. Someone who spends time working hard for relationships. A foreign policy driven by trust and relationships. Go overseas and meet with every country and spend enough time to relate.
    5. Someone who will stop looking at borrowing money as a solution, someone who will put private citizens with expertise in teams to find root causes and solutions to problems that are effective.

    I could go on and on, but I am not looking for a republican or a democrat with their political platforms- I want a honorable leader who will lead with truth, character and servanthood.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    In other words, your starting point is anyone but Hillary.
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    I think he wants carter.
     
  8. astros148

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    bush telling the american ppl iraq had the power to drop a atomic bomb on top of NYC. What a joke
     
  9. ChrisBosh

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    Funny how Americans voted the guy in TWICE, yet 70% of you guys think he's the worst EVER, he must have done something right. ……right?

    Future prediction…….I actually think McCain is going to be the worst president ever, Bush 2 will be a close second……Poor + Old white people who are currently supporting/voting for Hilary are all going to jump ship and vote for McCain, thus his victory. Sad but the two worst presidents of all time are going to get into office right after each other…..

    Hopefully though Obama wins somehow, I think he’ll be great…… little experience means less corrupted by the game of politics.
     
  10. geeimsobored

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    LBJ in my mind. Carter is an interesting choice but he wasnt a bad guy, just had no clue about politics and had a bad economic situation that he didn't deal with. (Keep in mind Nixon/Ford did equally stupid things with the economy prior to Carter like instituting price controls) He also managed to turn the Congress against him and basically stopped any hope of getting anything done.

    As for LBJ, the man had a grand vision but was entirely dishonest in his methods of getting it done. He basically hid the extent of the Vietnam War from the American people. Using stoploss programs, calling up reserves, basically doing anything he could to get people to Vietnam without using a draft. (until they actually started drafting) And there was no 24 hour media back then, you could get away with lying pretty damn easily. LBJ had a vision of America that he wanted to achieve with the Great Society programs but in the process managed to systematically lie repeatedly to the American people about the extent of our involvement in Vietnam in order to keep the political focus on domestic policy at home.

    But most importantly, he started an expectation of dishonesty and corruption in the White House that to this day hasnt disappeared. We speak of Bush II as someone who was dishonest but most people today almost expect that our presidents will lie to us. And that aura of dishonesty emanating from the White House started with LBJ in my opinion. This is where investigative journalism (which is a good thing) started and really took off. (It also helped that Nixon did his fair share too)
     
  11. rhino17

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    Kennedy was not a good president, i suprised he isnt getting more votes
     
  12. lalala902102001

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    Carter, hands down.

    I think people should not confuse the Former President Jimmy Carter with the President Jimmy Carter. His presidency was a disaster.
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    The thing is carter was given a bad set of cards. Bush was left with a balanced budget and pretty good economy and relative peace. Then the bubble burst, but his choices after 9/11 were/are truly terrible.
     
  14. Smokey

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    Dubya was elected twice. I can't call someone elected twice the worst president in the last 50 years unless Americans are dumb like the rest of the world believes.
     
  15. rhadamanthus

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    The truth hurts.
     
  16. Tree-Mac

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    I thought Kennedy was an icon? :confused: And he still got voted by some people as worst president. I wasn't even born back then, so I don't know.
     
  17. DFWRocket

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    This is correct. Lincoln is widely considered one of the greatest Presidents in history...rightly so. However when he was President, he was hated in both the North and the South and he barely won reelection and the South didn't even vote in the reelection.
     
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    DFWRocket! Long time, no see. Good to see you're still alive and posting. :)
     
  19. wnes

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    How could anyone vote for Nixon (in this thread) is beyond me. Let's face it -- all politicians play tricks and have dark sides. It's their policies that count.

    On international front, Nixon is arguably the most remarkable statesman the world has ever seen: subsided the Cold War, opened dialogue and started rapprochement with China, brought diplomacy to the Arab-Israel conflict.

    Domestically, he started revenue sharing program to balance the federal-state relationship, enacted monumental environmental protection laws, established OSHA, ended peace-time draft, introduced welfare reform policies, successfully desegregated Southern schools. If it were not for many of the economic woes that were beyond his control, he would be widely regarded as one of the greatest U.S. Presidents of all time.
     
  20. plcmts17

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    Barely? winning by half a million popular votes and winning the electoral college by close to 200 electoral votes is barely winning reelection? The popular vote numbers look close, but please remember the U.S. population was only 31,000,000 and this is the pre-war census count.

    And the south didn't even vote in the election ? I wonder why?

    Lincoln was hated, yes. That is beyond doubt. But what set him apart by far from those that have followed was his willingness to chose people in his cabinet who not only disliked him, but disagreed constantly with him. He picked the best people in spite of their differences.

    The Lincoln - bush comparison only works on the fact they were despised in their time. Almost any other type of comparison is fantasy.
     

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