Why didn't you explain what these two peeps did that was such an "accomplishment"? I don't know this Isner dude. Now I do.
It's not even close. Donovan's goal put our countrys national team into the elimination round when we looked done. It's much bigger then a record-breaking first round tennis match.
Well, I just figured out what was causing the audio crackles on my computer and I fixed it and I consider that a pretty big accomplishment but I didn't see my name listed on the poll so I'm all like wtf
Isner - Accomplishment The Goal - the greater societal impact. Making a goal . . is hard but not uncommon Playing Tennis for ever . . is an accomplishment If the question is . .. which will have the most lasting impact or which will is the most important to the most people. . .then yea. . the Goal but The bigger accomplishment is the Tennis Match. Esp on a personal level. It is like asking what is the bigger accomplishment: Winning the Superbowl . .. of being the guy with the Record for the most plates balanced on the stick at one time. Rocket River
Isner. If the US is eliminated no one outside of soccer fan will remember that goal, nor will it be mentioned as a milestone event in the sport. If Isner is eliminated that match will be referenced until the records they set are broken, and I don't see that happening for a VERY long time. http://sportige.com/wimbledon-john-isner-nicoals-mahut/ Longest tennis match in history – 665 Minutes, meaning 11 hours and 5 minutes, spread across three days of grueling tennis. I would have just started hitting double faults to get some rest and end it all, screw glory and professionalism. Maybe that’s why I was never good at pro sports. Longest Set in history – 8 Hours! The second longest tennis match in history is Six hours, 33 minutes long, between Fabrice Santoro and Arnaud Clement in the 2004 French Open. The longest Wimbledon match before the Isner-Mahut Serve-Fest was between Greg Holmes and Todd Witsken in the 1989 tournament – 5 Hours and 28 minutes. Most Games – 183 Games, 138 in the fifth set. The previous Wimbledon record, set in 1969, is 112 games. Most Aces – John Isner hit 113, Nicolas Mahut 102. Both now top the most aces in a match record books, with Croatian giant behind them with a “pathetic” 78, set last year in a Davis Cup match. Karlovic also owned the ATP tour recrod, 55, from the 2009 French Open. .
No way. The USA reached the elimination round last World Cup as well. The World Cup is every four years and they most likely will advance past the initial stages every time. They were also favoured to make it out of the group. The Isner match today will never be replicated in the course of tennis history.
That was kind of my point. The goal itself was nothing special. It's importance was dependent on the circumstances. That tennis match would have been special regardless of when or where it was played and regardless of if it got any media attention or not. The question was "which was the bigger accomplishment" and I chose the tennis match because when you strip away everything else and just isolate the goal and compare it the tennis match, there is no comparison. However, if you rephrase the question and ask "which was more significant" then the answer becomes Donovan's goal because the World Cup is bigger than Wimbledon and the men's national team better represents our country as a whole than a single tennis player most of us have never heard of.
USA did not reach elimination round last World Cup. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup_Group_E
The USA has reached elimination round only a third time in the last 20 years of World Cups, but not in 2006. This time it looks like it will be a little further than that.
Depends on how much further the US gets. That fact alone will retroactively determine how big Donovan's goal was.
We have a horrible history in the World Cup. This was the 1st time the US won their group since the first World Cup. This is only our 3rd trip to the round of 16. You clearly know nothing about American soccer. I said before that the tennis match is the more historical achievement, but Isner winning, unless he pulls of a miracle run, will be irrelevant. Winning the match wasn't what was great about it.
I meant the 2002 WC. America did really well in that series. Even the recent Confederations Cup showed America plays respectable soccer. Also in WC qualifying America did top of the group. In recent years their world ranking has been perpetually in the top 5-15. I don't think this will revolutionize the fan base for American soccer. When the event ends no will care about the sport, similar to how no one really cared about it after 2002. I like US Soccer, but I still think the tennis match is a bigger event in historical perspective. This WC will be remembered for Italy and France not even making it past the initial stages. Isner will be in history for all time. ALL TIME.
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=usa/ranking/gender=m/index.html Highest ranking: 4th - April 2006 http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/r...r=m/fullranking.html#confederation=0&rank=144
It seems that Isner's achievement was due to the length of the game. Does that mean his opponent had a similar achievement?
