Here's some candidates: Either of the Collins brothers, Jason or Jaron, take your pick - been making millions for years doing nothing but taking up space, their only talent is size. Rodney Carney - terrible Lance Stephenson - knucklehead with a knuckleball jumpshot, nothing else to say about him, he is flat terrible. Brian Cook - we've seen that Juwan Howard - I cannot believe he is still in the NBA. He was one of the worst players in the NBA when he was playing for us 4 years ago. Now, he's pushing 40 and he's worse. He'll be rolling out there in his wheelchair collecting a check before long. He's terrible. Did I say he was terrible? He's terrible. Just wait'n for him to clang one of those line drive 17 footers that bounces out long for the automatic dunk on the other end during a game 7 of the playoffs this season and send the Big 3 fishing. I suppose I'd have to have a playoff between Juwan and Lance Stephenson for my worst. That one on one game would probably take a couple days if they were playing to 11.
How is Lance Stephenson one of the worst? He hasn't even played a game yet. Pacer fans love what he did in Summer League.
You surprise me jopatmc... this is the first time I've seen you call a rookie terrible. I thought all rookies to you ooze of potential to become all-stars/hall of famers... but I disagree, Lance looks like he has game. His highlights look like T-Will's.
My 2010 bust is Paul George. I think he's too slow, too awkward, and too skinny, and too mentally slow to ever catch on big time. Most everyone else has touted him as a sleeper. I'm saying he's a bust. And Lance is terrible. He'll never make a career in the NBA. He'll be out of the league in two years and we'll never hear about him again except to read about him doing something stupid and going to prison or getting killed somehow. He's terrible. He has mediocre skills. And no brain at all. He is terrible.
I don't know why no one mentioned this yet but the way you stated it in your first post suggests he is actually shooting 3's at a less than 1% clip. In actuality, he has shot 14.3%, 21.1%, and 26.7% over the past three years.
These are players who've - Played at least 50 total season minutes or more - a PER of 7 or LOWER. Ordered from worse to better. Take whatever meaning you want from it http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=8EysQ Code: Rk Player Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% PER 1 Roger Mason 2010-11 30 NYK NBA 8 0 61 1 13 0 4 1 3 1 11 12 3 1 0 1 5 3 .077 .000 .333 -2.8 2 Dominique Jones 2010-11 22 DAL NBA 9 0 56 2 8 0 1 4 6 1 4 5 5 1 1 7 4 8 .250 .000 .667 -0.3 3 Jarron Collins 2010-11 32 LAC NBA 18 0 138 5 15 0 0 5 6 5 8 13 0 4 1 4 22 15 .333 .833 1.4 4 Luke Babbitt 2010-11 21 POR NBA 10 0 59 6 21 1 8 2 5 1 6 7 2 1 1 2 5 15 .286 .125 .400 1.6 5 Earl Barron 2010-11 29 PHO NBA 12 6 183 12 51 0 0 12 20 16 24 40 4 6 4 11 32 36 .235 .600 1.6 6 Quinton Ross 2010-11 29 NJN NBA 14 4 141 7 19 0 1 3 9 5 11 16 4 2 2 3 15 17 .368 .000 .333 2.9 7 Charlie Bell 2010-11 31 GSW NBA 13 0 111 8 30 2 13 0 2 5 6 11 10 4 0 5 6 18 .267 .154 .000 3.1 8 Daequan Cook 2010-11 23 OKC NBA 7 0 67 5 18 3 16 2 2 1 4 5 3 2 0 2 9 15 .278 .188 1.000 3.1 9 Malik Allen 2010-11 32 ORL NBA 7 0 85 7 19 0 0 0 0 4 10 14 2 1 2 2 14 14 .368 3.3 10 Jason Kapono 2010-11 29 PHI NBA 10 2 71 5 16 0 1 1 1 2 3 5 1 2 0 1 1 11 .313 .000 1.000 3.3 11 Luke Walton 2010-11 30 LAL NBA 17 0 130 8 32 1 10 5 6 2 16 18 17 5 2 11 10 22 .250 .100 .833 3.6 12 Maurice Evans 2010-11 32 ATL NBA 23 5 386 35 104 9 41 9 12 12 26 38 14 3 3 8 37 88 .337 .220 .750 4.1 13 DeSagana Diop 2010-11 29 CHA NBA 13 0 132 6 18 0 0 3 5 9 21 30 6 2 10 10 21 15 .333 .600 4.5 14 Cole Aldrich 2010-11 22 OKC NBA 7 0 55 3 6 0 0 1 2 4 9 13 1 3 1 4 12 7 .500 .500 4.6 15 Jawad Williams 2010-11 27 CLE NBA 25 1 368 38 120 10 40 9 12 7 41 48 22 9 3 16 31 95 .317 .250 .750 4.6 16 Gordon Hayward 2010-11 20 UTA NBA 24 4 217 19 47 3 9 10 13 12 22 34 7 2 4 14 29 51 .404 .333 .769 5.0 17 Timofey Mozgov 2010-11 24 NYK NBA 24 9 253 20 55 0 0 17 26 16 33 49 11 11 15 26 50 57 .364 .654 5.0 18 Ime Udoka 2010-11 33 SAS NBA 15 0 92 3 17 0 7 3 4 3 10 13 11 6 1 4 8 9 .176 .000 .750 5.0 19 Gerald Henderson 2010-11 23 CHA NBA 14 0 165 15 40 0 4 7 12 5 16 21 10 4 4 10 16 37 .375 .000 .583 5.1 20 Theo Ratliff 2010-11 37 LAL NBA 8 0 67 1 6 0 0 0 0 6 7 13 3 2 5 3 7 2 .167 5.1 Rk Player Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% PER 21 Hasheem Thabeet 2010-11 23 MEM NBA 22 0 199 10 19 0 0 11 22 11 19 30 1 4 12 9 37 31 .526 .500 5.5 22 Jason Collins 2010-11 32 ATL NBA 22 9 225 18 35 1 1 13 19 11 25 36 10 4 1 13 45 50 .514 1.000 .684 5.7 23 Sundiata Gaines 2010-11 24 MIN NBA 7 0 64 7 22 2 6 5 8 1 5 6 6 3 0 6 4 21 .318 .333 .625 5.7 24 Acie Law 2010-11 26 TOT NBA 17 0 217 15 48 2 16 18 25 6 15 21 26 7 0 17 18 50 .313 .125 .720 5.8 25 Sean Marks 2010-11 35 POR NBA 15 0 127 13 28 0 0 4 6 12 14 26 2 1 3 6 28 30 .464 .667 6.1 26 Quincy Pondexter 2010-11 22 NOH NBA 20 0 200 21 50 4 10 4 7 5 21 26 2 3 1 5 17 50 .420 .400 .571 6.1 27 Jerry Stackhouse 2010-11 36 MIA NBA 7 1 50 3 12 1 4 5 7 1 6 7 3 0 2 2 3 12 .250 .250 .714 6.1 28 Louis Amundson 2010-11 28 GSW NBA 8 3 138 15 35 0 0 6 14 16 14 30 2 2 5 10 23 36 .429 .429 6.2 29 Kyrylo Fesenko 2010-11 24 UTA NBA 22 0 187 18 41 0 1 5 19 15 32 47 10 0 7 6 42 41 .439 .000 .263 6.2 30 Randy Foye 2010-11 27 LAC NBA 11 0 125 15 42 2 10 8 9 0 5 5 15 2 1 9 8 40 .357 .200 .889 6.3 31 Anthony Randolph 2010-11 21 NYK NBA 13 0 105 10 35 0 2 6 10 8 24 32 7 3 7 9 13 26 .286 .000 .600 6.4 32 Troy Murphy 2010-11 30 NJN NBA 15 4 249 21 66 4 22 7 13 9 55 64 17 7 2 11 27 53 .318 .182 .538 6.5 33 Chris Duhon 2010-11 28 ORL NBA 24 5 467 35 80 11 33 6 11 5 24 29 70 8 2 40 19 87 .438 .333 .545 6.6 34 Manny Harris 2010-11 21 CLE NBA 10 0 103 12 36 4 12 2 4 2 10 12 8 7 1 8 8 30 .333 .333 .500 6.6 35 Terrence Williams 2010-11 23 NJN NBA 10 0 206 29 73 4 12 5 10 3 33 36 31 5 0 25 21 67 .397 .333 .500 6.7 36 Stephen Graham 2010-11 28 NJN NBA 19 4 246 22 58 0 5 16 20 6 20 26 12 6 0 7 24 60 .379 .000 .800 6.8 37 Ronnie Price 2010-11 27 UTA NBA 30 0 330 38 94 10 34 11 13 6 19 25 21 20 2 23 49 97 .404 .294 .846 6.9 38 Damion James 2010-11 23 NJN NBA 17 1 219 21 60 0 2 11 18 8 41 49 10 5 7 13 16 53 .350 .000 .611 7.0
Some of those guys are just young, i could see J-Hill being on that list if he wasnt given the time... mostly agreed tho..
Thanks. Its just filling in numbers really In fairness to the players, a lot of them are young and developing and shouldnt count. Some of the players are SPECIFICALLY ROLE players who are asked to do only thing and don't fill up an all-around stat sheet to boost up the PER. So if they get off to a slow start in their one skill, they'll look like they're not offering anything. Jason Kapono is a 3 point gunner only, he's not gonna get rebounds and assists. Desagana Diop and the Colllins twins are just 7 footers asked to stand under the rim and defend. Ime Udoka is just a defensive specialist. Then there are D-League call-ups and 10 day contract guys who are definitely gonna be the worst. The Matt Carroll example is a good one cuz that's a veteran guy on a decent contract who's just sucking.
(Cuz I'm bored) Another attempt Combined season totals from 2007 to 2011. Current ACTIVE players who have - At least 100 total minutes - A PER of 9 or LOWER - From a player's 2ND YEAR and on (no rookie seasons added in) Ordered from better PER to worse PER http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=5qXhs Code: Rk Player From To ▾ Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS FG% 3P% FT% PER 1 Jared Jeffries 2007 2011 TOT NBA 263 135 5797 466 1080 29 132 211 376 496 520 1016 318 192 157 268 644 1172 .431 .220 .561 9.0 2 Dante Cunningham 2011 2011 POR NBA 30 2 539 59 135 0 4 15 21 34 60 94 20 12 14 16 65 133 .437 .000 .714 9.0 3 Jonny Flynn 2011 2011 MIN NBA 6 0 109 13 29 4 14 2 3 2 9 11 18 1 1 11 6 32 .448 .286 .667 8.9 4 Earl Barron 2007 2011 TOT NBA 93 27 1507 198 529 1 14 112 154 133 223 356 46 35 20 81 191 509 .374 .071 .727 8.9 5 Hilton Armstrong 2008 2011 TOT NBA 193 33 2459 258 522 0 3 127 214 198 324 522 79 68 105 180 431 643 .494 .000 .593 8.9 6 Royal Ivey 2007 2011 TOT NBA 255 38 3249 325 831 97 280 152 207 78 211 289 278 128 20 142 354 899 .391 .346 .734 8.8 7 Kosta Koufos 2010 2011 TOT NBA 60 1 389 51 118 0 2 16 25 43 62 105 11 8 15 30 62 118 .432 .000 .640 8.7 8 Malik Allen 2007 2011 TOT NBA 240 23 2854 390 890 2 10 73 93 183 331 514 113 55 66 110 405 855 .438 .200 .785 8.6 9 Alonzo Gee 2011 2011 TOT NBA 16 5 145 13 30 0 2 8 12 13 12 25 5 7 2 11 13 34 .433 .000 .667 8.5 10 Antoine Wright 2007 2011 TOT NBA 258 96 5344 588 1418 154 495 214 312 149 502 651 283 135 69 206 556 1544 .415 .311 .686 8.4 11 Wayne Ellington 2011 2011 MIN NBA 22 4 371 52 126 17 43 9 15 5 26 31 17 13 0 19 31 130 .413 .395 .600 7.9 12 Quinton Ross 2007 2011 TOT NBA 291 105 5073 454 1103 48 141 153 212 165 388 553 237 160 87 112 509 1109 .412 .340 .722 7.8 13 Darnell Jackson 2010 2011 TOT NBA 48 2 348 43 100 1 7 15 27 35 38 73 10 6 6 24 50 102 .430 .143 .556 7.6 14 Hamed Haddadi 2010 2011 MEM NBA 43 0 262 26 67 0 3 15 21 28 57 85 11 1 15 21 60 67 .388 .000 .714 7.5 15 Melvin Ely 2007 2011 TOT NBA 127 6 1465 163 377 0 0 92 152 87 216 303 65 18 40 99 215 418 .432 .605 7.5 16 Jawad Williams 2010 2011 CLE NBA 79 7 1110 119 326 40 133 41 57 23 108 131 56 21 8 34 104 319 .365 .301 .719 7.0 17 Terrence Williams 2011 2011 NJN NBA 10 0 206 29 73 4 12 5 10 3 33 36 31 5 0 25 21 67 .397 .333 .500 6.7 18 Jarron Collins 2007 2011 TOT NBA 230 31 2214 144 333 0 1 123 199 158 241 399 110 31 19 82 352 411 .432 .000 .618 6.3 19 Brian Scalabrine 2007 2011 TOT NBA 204 37 2591 190 496 99 268 53 67 63 227 290 149 51 44 103 340 532 .383 .369 .791 5.9 20 Hasheem Thabeet 2011 2011 MEM NBA 22 0 199 10 19 0 0 11 22 11 19 30 1 4 12 9 37 31 .526 .500 5.5 21 Gerald Henderson 2011 2011 CHA NBA 14 0 165 15 40 0 4 7 12 5 16 21 10 4 4 10 16 37 .375 .000 .583 5.1 22 Jason Collins 2007 2011 TOT NBA 231 135 3778 156 392 1 5 119 250 198 416 614 96 79 79 151 606 432 .398 .200 .476 3.3 23 Maurice Ager 2008 2011 TOT NBA 50 3 291 42 119 6 29 10 20 7 18 25 12 2 3 14 38 100 .353 .207 .500 2.7 I had Scalabrine and Malik Allen in mind cuz on top of bad play they dont even LOOK like basketball players.
Thabeet by far, can someone post the video of him at Yao's charity game, they did some warmup drills before the game, and he could barely dribble the ball without losing control of it.
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