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Who do you THINK is going to win? (NOT WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR!)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Chance, Sep 18, 2004.

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Who do you think will be elected President on November 2 (Parenthesis pop.vote)?

  1. John Kerry narrow margin (Less than 1%)

    25 vote(s)
    15.4%
  2. George Bush narrow margin (Less than 1%)

    18 vote(s)
    11.1%
  3. John Kerry (Between 1 and 5%)

    27 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. George Bush (Between 1 and 5%)

    58 vote(s)
    35.8%
  5. John Kerry wide margin (More than 5%)

    12 vote(s)
    7.4%
  6. George Bush wide Margin (More than 5%)

    22 vote(s)
    13.6%
  1. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Member

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    Yeah, but is an isolationist strategy really what's best for America? In today's world especially.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The problem is this, the Democrats lack credibility on Iraq just as much as this President does. If any of them would have had the balls to stand up to Bush when he was on his mission to start this mess, they would have more to stand on. They really can't run on the biggest issue in this campaign.
     
  3. whag00

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    Howard Dean would have been more effective on this issue because he truly is the "anti-war" candidate.
     
  4. Mulder

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    You left a scenario off, one the country should be familiar with from 2000.
    Bush wins electoral vote, loses popular vote. Hopefully that will not happen as I think it would be disastrous for the country.
     
  5. Fegwu

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    Ha ha ha ha

    The spirit of God and the power of vision does not lie. I do NOT think - I know who won the election with over 5% victory margin.

    Take it for whatever it is but I guarantee you all - I will be vindated come November 2nd, 2004 to the glory of God Almighty. Jehova has never lied to me and He will not start now.
     
  6. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Good lord. You have a lot of balls posting such unadulterated crap. You know nothing about me, except what you've read on this BBS. You have absolutely no idea who and what you are talking about, in regards to me.

    And, for the record, I have never seen the Dave Mathews Band. I have seen the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, and a whole host of groups from the time period when rock music was original and alive.

    I'm old enough to have voted against Richard Nixon, which I did, so I think I'm old enough to have a pretty clear sense of where this country has been the last few decades, and where it is going if the current trend continues.

    In short, sir, you are completely full of it. And I have no idea what the end of your post was referring to, but I can tell you that I haven't the slightest interest.

    I love my country. I don't love the fact that ignorance, of the type displayed by you, is running rampant across the land.


    I would tell you to go (fill in the appropriate word) yourself, but that would put me at your level of ignorance. You, sir, are the one in denial. You can lump me into some artificial construct of your imagination, but that is all it is. I don't know your America, and it saddens me that people like you, who I would expect to have more intelligence than this, truly believe the garbage I just read.

    Unbelievable.
     
  7. ron413

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    Deckard, what would happen or what would be your gameplan (in your humble opinion) if John Forbes Kerry were to stumble upon the presidency?
     
  8. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    You mean, if he wins the election?
    Party. For a long time. And walk around with an enormous sense of relief, and a big grin on my face. :)
     
  9. JayZ750

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    Wow. Excellent response.
     
  10. ron413

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    Don't forget to cancel your one-way tickets to British Columbia also, if JFK wins in November:)
     
  11. Tyree

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    austin wont miss you....happy trails
     
  12. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Don't worry. For my family to do something like that would be the equivalent of the Allied preparations for D-Day. Besides, New Zealand is pretty cool as well, and not nearly as cold during the winter, depending on where you are.


    (and thanks for having a sense of humor! ;))
     
  13. Chance

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    deck..

    I did not mean to be personal. I'm sorry. I was using the DMB reference as an illustration of what is seen out there is not necessarily what goes on in peoples heads, or in the voting booth.

    We will find out in a month which one of us is in denial. If Kerry wins, even if he squeaks by, I will eat crow and say, "jeez. I was really off the mark. How could I have been so wrong?" And I will start paying closer attention to what I perceived as a vocal minority with the press on their side. I will listen harder and try to better understand the true pulse of this great nation. I swear to you I will.


    Until then I remain steadfast.

    Deckard, we don't have to get angry here.

    We are both Rockets fans and the Astros look like they might get clemens his 18th W and lock up his 7th Cy. We got that going for us.
     
  14. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Thanks for the reply. I really have been trying to do my small part to have good discussions here, without the TJ, etc. BS that keeps getting us all riled up. You're a nice guy, and sometimes it's hard to see "the person behind the keyboard" is not some cookie cutter stereotype that the media too often promotes for ratings, much to the dismay of a lot of us.

    I have no problem with people disagreeing with my positions, or throwing the occasional zinger my way. Heck, a lot of the stuff that bothers some of the admins here doesn't really have as much affect on me as it does them, but it's their BBS, and I respect and admire them for providing it, and sure think it's worth doing what we can to keep them reasonably happy, and preserve the D&D.

    Neither one of us really knows what will happen election day. I just hate being put into a "box," and lumped in with everyone else. I'm sure you do as well. Lets forget about it, and move on.
     
  15. bamaslammer

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    Talk about your sore losers. "I'll pack up my toys and run away to BC if that evil Hitleresque Bush wins....waaaaahhhh!" I'm going to hold you to that unfortunately if (more like when) Bush wins.

    But seriously, Bush is not that bad! God, your paranoia is approaching Nixonian extremes. If Kerry wins, I'll just hope that the GOP House and Senate throw a big monkey wrench to every one of his socialist, pacificistic schemes. You won't see me run away if (God forbid) that lying, imcompentent, unscrupulous piece of excrement known as John SKerry gets elected.

    Granted, I'm not happy with the Bush admin on many issues that I won't recount here. But until we win this war on terror, I can't go back to voting for 3rd party candidates more in line with my thinking, but who have absolutely no shot at getting elected. My children can not afford another pacifistic, do-nothing, mealy-mouthed Democrat like Clinton or Carter in the White House.
    The subhuman barbarians are at the gates with torches and we need a warfighter, not a man of "nuance." Bush is definitely a real man o' warsman, not a indecisive weasel like SKerry.
     
  16. wizkid83

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    U.S. it's a great country with a great system that will not crumble if Bush wins. However, the huge national debt (we spend like 30 times more on just paying the INTEREST for the debt than any other government program every year, with the exception of Iraq war which is just a little bit more).

    That coupled with a growing population illegal immigrants. A welfare system that makes people content on not working. Add that to declining industries, there is a good chance that U.S. might go through some tough times in the next 15 years - 30 years.

    While I still believe "that U.S. is able to redefine itself and overcome difficulties like it always has" (I think that was a quote from the president of GE when he spoke at U.T.), it's never a bad idea to learn another language and expand your options, especially in as the world comes closer together.
     
  17. ROXRAN

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    At stake in the 2004 elections is the very sanctity of the U.S. Constitution and America's national sovereignty...That is why Bush will win...

    Why on earth does the U.N. want to abolish certain constitutional rights...What's next?...the 5th, 7th and 8th admendments?...What's scary is there are elected politicians favoring bowing to U.N. demands about how to run OUR country, internal and external...

    If you want the infringement of rights, vote Kerry...Fortunately, people realize this...In Tennessee, (A critical state) Bush is up by 16 points...Polls everywhere have shown it's about people being serious about the restoration of rights...Everybody else can leave, and never come back...
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    What constitutional rights is the UN trying to abolish? The UN hasn't made one claim against our constitution.

    By the way Kerry has been very clear that he will let no country or organization hold a veto over America's defense.
     
  19. RocketMan Tex

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    I will be voting for Kerry, but at this point in time (9/19) I believe Bush will win. It'll be between 1-5%, probably closer to 1% than 5%.

    That being said, I believe Kerry still has a chance. He has to absolutely ace the debates to have a chance to win.

    I heard a pundit on one of the news stations give a two pronged analysis I happen to totally agree with.

    If the debate in this election is about Bush, Kerry wins the election.

    If the debate in this election is about anything other than Bush, Bush wins the election.

    So far, Bush's team has done a great job of making sure the debate is about anything other than W's first term record, and that is why I believe Bush is ahead in quite a few of the polls.

    The debates will tell the tale on this one. Everyone says W is a lousy debater with his malapropisms, etc.....but he hasn't lost one yet.

    I will be watching all of the debates with plenty of beer, chips, salsa & guac....and my phone off the hook.
     
  20. Chance

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    Nice insight. I agree except that I don't think the "winner" of the debates will determine the outcome. Bush's natural personality is warmer and more relatable than JFK's. These things are so orchestrated that it will be tough for him to lose IMO.

    I just hope he says in his Texas Twang, "John Kerry is wrong about the W. It doesn't stand for Wrong. It stands for Write. And speaking of writing I'd like to talk about education. Nothing has become more importantified to me than the eductaionilization of Am-ur-ica's young people. The end."
     

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