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Who Do the Rockets Take With the 44th Pick

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by rocksolid, Jun 9, 2003.

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  1. leebigez

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    Think about this. Had Marcus came out, he would have been lotto. A little time after that he's slotted in te rookie slot and gets guaranteed money for at least 3yrs. After that if he gets hurt, he can rehab and collect his money like Borchardt. If he never plays a nba game because of injuries, his millions would be there and he could could return for his degree a millionaire. Listening to people who didn't know had him missin out on millions of dollars. Thats a reason why your statement made no sense.
     
  2. The Jet

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    regarding Chris Marcus:

    The reason why Marcus didn't enter the draft and did go back to school is because he injured his foot before the draft during his jr season and the nba people were not going to draft him in the first round since he was a injury risk.
     
  3. NIKEstrad

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    lee- mfclark said that Marcus is the posterchild for NOT staying in school (ergo, he should've come out when his status was hot). You two are saying the same thing, IMO.

    The fact that the Rockets are postponing the compensation of a 2nd rounder to the Knicks tells me that they have a few guys they like that should be around at 44 or so. Odds are, you're not going to find a guy who can step in and be the starting PG immediately (or ever, for that matter) at 44, or a guy that's going to be a starting PF in this league.

    Considering the Rockets needs and this draft, I suspect the target will be a shooter- Korver, Kapono, Hansen or one of the cerebral wing players in Luke Walton and Matt Carroll.
     
  4. thumbs

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    If there is a TALL, talented point guard left when the Rockets draft, then it's a no brainer. If not, K. Perkins would be a steal.and we will need another reserve big man in case we lose Jason Collier. However, Perkins won't last to #44 because the league is too starved for big men.

    Bell and Banks are only 6-1, so that would leave the Rockets with a munchkin backcourt. Blake and Marcus may go undrafted, so we could invite them to camp without spending a draft choice.
     
  5. tozai

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    Agreed. At least someone here has actually WATCHED the prospects instead of reading nbadraft.net. I really doubt there are many immediate PG options at #44 in this draft. I'd rather we go after a project post player.
     
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    I can see where you're coming from there, an ambiguity on my part....like Nike said above, we're trying to say the same thing.
     
  7. rocksolid

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    like who?
     
  8. Desert Scar

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    Gardner will be a very good player in Europe. A great leader, very physically tough, steady with the ball, heady under pressure, etc. At his size to make the NBA he would have to be an athletic phenom (Ford, Webb) or shoot great (D Stoud, Dana Barros) neither of which he is, but he will be an outstanding 2nd tier (Euro, America) league player.

    Walton will probably go late 1st round--he is not an option unless we trade. The only reason he might fall is physical concerns (feet).

    With a mid 40s pick you might as well take a gamble. If Walton or another comparable talent fell via health concerns you might as well take a chance, or go with a HS or Europe kid with some potential. No on a Kapono or Carrol, maybe on Daniels, Korver, Rickert or Jones--at least those guys are less unidimensional. I like Price or Blake's backcourt mate if entered more than Blake--Blake just doesn't at all look like NBA material to me. Tommy Smith--total collegiate underachiver but with some elements/features of a pro PF might be an interesting pickup too.
     
  9. Matador

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    first time I've ever seen Yao's name spelled wrong (except for the occasional Yoa)

    On nbadraft I've seen them projecting taking the likes of Josh Powell, Luke Walton, and currently they have us tabbed to take Pacellis Morlende a quick French point guard (Tony Parker wannabe?)
     
  10. zrader1

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    Hey ya'll just curious what do you think about Andre Emmett from Texas Tech? I have had a chance to see him play a lot he's prety talented if I do say myself. Good old bobby said he was the best player he's ever coached and that says a lot anyways just curious on your thoughts. Plain and simple the boy has skills!!!
     
  11. TIburon

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    Nah... I'd rather have Bernard King:p

    Honestly, I like Andre Emmitt but I think he better go back to TT personally...

    Work on a outside shot... He gets a comfortable shot from the perimeter (even if he's a spot up shooter like Mario Elie), he'll definitely be very hard to guard even though he already is...

    Didn't Coach Knight say that about him before last season? I remember Emmitt being suspended with Valdez(missed the UT game)...
     
  12. kidrock8

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    Only Reece Gaines would really fit this mold. And no way does he slip into the 2nd round.
     
  13. kidrock8

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    I don't see much in Garnder at all. I do think he is a good leader, but skill-wise I don't see anything that he's good at. I really don't think he's steady with the ball at all. I just see a SG trapped in a PGs body. I don't think he did enough playmaking at Zona. Which isn't totally his fault, since he was surrounded by studs everywhere, which eliminated his # of touches.

    I accidentally deleted your comment about Tommy Smith... As a former ASU student, I really don't like Smith. He is a very good run/jump athlete, but he rarely uses his brains. He would have decent games when he wouldn't foul out in the 1st half. Moreover, he's a SF without a jumper or a PF without any muscle. I really don't know what his role would be on an NBA team. He could thrive with an uptempo PG, but how many of them are out there?
     
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    Well...there are the international prospects. Maybe not the mot heralded ones, but there will be some available in the mid-2nd round who may not be able to come over immediately, but can make an impact down the road. Along the lines of Vujanic, perhaps.
     
  15. Ottomaton

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    Regarding Chris Marcus, his intentions, and his status there is a really enlightening article on espn.com here that goes through his situation and disposition, etc. I seem to remember that there was a bunch of stuff about CD being a fan before last year's draft. I wouldn't put it past the Rockets to take a flyer on him as a #3/IR player, given that they're going to be jettisoning Jason Collier. At their position in the draft, looking for much more than a role player with a good attitude and some potential wouldn't seem overly realistic, Cuttino Mobley's of the world not withstanding.

    It is also intresting to note that Marcus' history of ankle problems and Pavel Podkolzine's history of ankle problems are getting very different play. One wonders how much Pavel's situation would be different if each one of his injuries had played out at a US college in real time, rather than being seen on paper only after the fact.
     
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    #44) Justin Hamilton, Sr. PG (6-4 with 6-11 wing span) out of Florida. Awesome player with good potential for the 44th pick. 56% fg and 40% 3pt . Also an excellent defender and good finisher with a 38 inch verticle and that wing span. He would be the best replacement for Mooch. Only scores when needed to.

    Kirk Penny. Plan B.
     
  17. giddyup

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    Do you mean U of F or somewhere else?
     
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    <a HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=2846">Justin Hamilton</a>

    Sounds like he could be invited to camp as a Free Agent. Tito is on the outs........so invite several guys to training camp and see what happens.
     
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    Speaking of tall point guard types, after checking out the latest ESPN mock draft, it seems like Boris Diaw has a chance of slipping into the second round. If so, he's my vote for the Rockets pick.

    Diaw, from France, is a tall PG-type that has a pass-first mentality. He's being listed at 6'9", but ESPN seems pretty sure of his ability to play the point. You know, picking a guy like this will add fuel to the "move Steve to SG" fire.
     
  20. thumbs

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    Yep, Ford, Hinrch and Diaw could slip down to #44. Sure. It's possible ... but not likely.

    Our best chance is to go for a cash strapped team with a late, late first rounder for one of the Rocket's lesser lights and #44. BTW, whatever happened to PG Kyle Hill? He went to Europe but we still own his rights, don't we?

    Also, does anybody have opinions on Matt Carroll of Notre Dame? He's 6-6, 212 and a 4-year player with solid credentials.
     
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