Yep. In the 4+ page Rasheed to Houston Vecsey rumor thread, I mentioned that I thought in any trade POR would weigh the value of incoming contracts versus what they realistically felt they could get with their cap space from renouncing Wallace. IIRC, there are not a lot of desirable players. And (unless Stoudamire is traded) PF and PG are their deepest positions. What Top Tier or 2nd Tier C, SF, and/or SG are available for no more than $8m? For 2004-05, the Blazers have seven contracts totalling $36.m. If the cap rises from $42m to $44m, they have ~$8m. Not enough for a top tier player IMO. Plus, they have to fill out a roster with at least 5 more players but by being below the cap, they lose their MLE. Additionally, every team must put at least 1 player into the Charlotte expansion draft.
I think it is pretty simple. Wallace and SAR have BOTH been rumored to be moved and to me they could be swapped. Portland does it so SAR can play the 3 and backup 4 and get a good "character" guy and still not loose too much talent wise PLUS his contract is up after next season. Win-win for them. They get talent and a contract that is up after next season and dump Wallace. Atlanta does it to clear salary. They don't resign Wallace and dump salary. They are trying to blow up the team anyway and this gives them a jump start in it by clearing monies this season instead of waiting for after next year.
Considering the above potential offers, Houston has the least chance of landing sheed. Start with mobley.
Deuce - A major flaw in your logic. With SAR, Atlanta has $57m committed for 2004-05. And Rasheed currently makes ~$3m more that SAR. Ignoring the salary difference and deducting Wallace's entire $17m leaves them at $40m. That's MLE money.
The Blazers aren't going to dump Rasheed Wallace for garbage. Letting him walk or pursuing sign-and-trades in the offseason will have more value than taking on contracts at this stage since they are probably going to be rebuilding (or reloading ... whatever) around Zach Randolph soon. This quote was in a New York Daily News article also: "People are under the assumption that we are in a rush to trade Rasheed," Portland GM John Nash said. "And that's not the case at all."
Nolen, It's not really about cap space. That comment was more directed toward my frustration with the Rice to Utah trade in which we gave them draft picks, as well as cap space. I don't think that trades should be made solely on what the percieved value of a player(s) is, but instead, should be on how the traded for player can help your team. The Ward/Thomas for Mobley/Cato trade was proposed, based on players that I feel will strengthen our weakest positions & allow us to move players to a position that will better utilize their talents. In other words, Ward would be an upgrade over Francis at PG, Francis would be an upgrade over Mobley at SG, & Thomas would give us a nice blend of rebounding & shooting at PF. Thus, an upgrade over Cato at PF. However, after tonight's game, if Cato continues to play like that (I'd be surprised if he does), I'd have to back away from all the trade Cato talks.
Oh, I know that too. But they could also dump Alan Henderson's contract and Theo's contract and start their rebuilding now. The sooner the better for that team. I guess I was getting at that the Hawks could make their "first step" of dumping contracts with the SAR/Wallace swap.
They would love to have McDyess, whose max contract expires after the year. The question is if the Knicks would want to trade McDyess... Both teams are looking to trim payroll.
you think that might be damon stoudamire??? who would have thought the blazers could get out from the massive salary bill so quickly
Smeggy - I was actually thinking Travis Outlaw or Qyntel Woods, but since you brought it up.... Just because a player has a high dollar contract doesn't mean they may not get selected by Charlotte. Stoudamire has a very large contract, be he is also a productive PG in the final year of his contract. Stoudamire may may too high-dollar but leaving someone like Kelvin Cato unprotected could backfire. The Bobcats could take him and then deal him to an EC team for 2 ~$4m shorter contract players and some picks.
Why would we want Wallace???? Mediocre shooter at 43%. Poor rebounder at 6.9/game. History of problems. I don't see the benefit other than his height to help us with matchup problems. I mean MoT is shooting 47.4% now and gets 5.8 boards in just 27 minutes. They both get in foul trouble, maybe this can improve with MoT.
Are the Blazers trying to unload Ruben Patterson's salary to? If so then how about this. MoT, Boki, Weatherspoon, Adrian Griffin plus a 1st for Rasheed 6.9 million trade exception for Ruben Patterson these trades would never happen but for the sake of dream casting this does very little damage if any to our roster while adding some very real talent and helping Portland to trim about 7 million a year off of their pay-role.
I'm not real familure with all of the crap that Phoenix just got in the Starbury trade but it all looks like crap to me. Maybe I'm just not familure with all of the peaple involved in the trade but it sure looks like McDyess is the only real tradable value and since he and Randloph play the same position then I have a hard time seeing how McDyess looks attractive to them.
Why not? Now they have McD too! Didn't stop them from paying big to get him, even if it is for just this year...
yeah they seem to have cap room now Rox do not need Wallace right now in my opinion. we have the same thing in 2 players that we would get in one. height=Cato, Scoring=MoT, poor rebounding=MoT, Bad History =cato & MoT
