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white man burden

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by God's Son, Nov 23, 2007.

  1. bigtexxx

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    Hey God's son - get your pigmented azz back to work or I'll fire you when I return from my extended vacation on Friday. TIA
     
  2. Rocket River

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    *chuckle*snicker*laugh*

    Rocket River
    keep it coming
     
  3. Ottomaton

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    Your persistent running grudge to paint pouhe as insufficently black always makes me feel much more confident that he has something relevant to say. I wouldn't even have a mental picture of his identity without you.
     
  4. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Easily the most racist thread I've ever read on this BBS.

    The sad irony is that the initial post is full of absolutely pathetic grammar. No wonder you aren't pleased with your lot in life -- you can't read or speak English!
     
  5. mateo

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    Isnt it "white man's burden" ?
     
  6. Batman Jones

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    Well, you are the expert.
     
  7. rhino17

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    well put
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    Not to appear snobbish, but please don't reference my favorite author's work without understanding one iota of what he's trying to say?

    The White Man's Burden, published 108 years ago, is still EVERY BIT as relevant to America's plight today in Iraq and Afghanistan and indeed everywhere in this world, as it was back in the days of high Imperialism.

    George Bush should have read this himself before starting his wars. And he should have made this poem mandatory reading for all Americans as well...

    http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_2/kipling.html

    Take up the White Man's burden--
    Send forth the best ye breed--
    Go bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
    To wait in heavy harness,
    On fluttered folk and wild--
    Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half-devil and half-child.

    Take up the White Man's burden--
    In patience to abide,
    To veil the threat of terror
    And check the show of pride;
    By open speech and simple,
    An hundred times made plain
    To seek another's profit,
    And work another's gain.

    Take up the White Man's burden--
    The savage wars of peace--
    Fill full the mouth of Famine
    And bid the sickness cease;
    And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought,
    Watch sloth and heathen Folly
    Bring all your hopes to nought.

    Take up the White Man's burden--
    No tawdry rule of kings,
    But toil of serf and sweeper--
    The tale of common things.
    The ports ye shall not enter,
    The roads ye shall not tread,
    Go mark them with your living,
    And mark them with your dead.

    Take up the White Man's burden--
    And reap his old reward:
    The blame of those ye better,
    The hate of those ye guard--
    The cry of hosts ye humour
    (Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
    "Why brought he us from bondage,
    Our loved Egyptian night?"

    Take up the White Man's burden--
    Ye dare not stoop to less--
    Nor call too loud on Freedom
    To cloke your weariness;
    By all ye cry or whisper,
    By all ye leave or do,
    The silent, sullen peoples
    Shall weigh your gods and you.

    Take up the White Man's burden--
    Have done with childish days--
    The lightly proferred laurel,
    The easy, ungrudged praise.
    Comes now, to search your manhood
    Through all the thankless years
    Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
    The judgment of your peers!
     
  10. Rocket River

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    To each his own

    I don't even beleive Pouhe to be a real person
    more of a alternate nick for someone to spew stuff

    If it makes you feel better. . .do it. . .or as the young folx and russel simmons say . . .Do You

    I saw that episode of the boondocks
    I enjoyed it immensely. . . .but my question is
    what character do you see me as being? Out of curiousity
    then again . . i guess Pouhe would be Huey too you . . .
    like I said. . to each his own . . . .Check out the Episode about MLK
    surviving his being shot. . it is hilarious and some truth to it too . . .

    But . .. back to the topic at hand

    Are we Pro-Multiculturalism or Pro-Monoculturalism?
    is one Culture Superior to another Culture?
    Are we about equality or superiority?


    Rocket River
    Responding. . . . was the least I could do
     
  11. Ottomaton

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    Riley. The part near at 3:20 when Tom and Riley are first talking about the R Kelly prossicution reminds me of some of the discussions of Michael Vick.

    Not Huey because Huey is always above everything and would just observe a BBS thread from afar and philosophize about everybody. He's also sort of the 'perfected ideal'.

    Closest match would be Tom Dubois in that from how I understand it pouhe is 'genetically' black but doesn't seem to have the 'cultural black credentials'. He doesn't view the world the way you think a black man should.

    I actually would be interested in what you think of the character of Tom. I generally view him as one of the good guys - just a shade or two away from the grandfather, despite being very naive. The other extreme would be to view him as Uncle Ruckus with a clean coat of paint.

    In this thread I think what bigtexxx said was much more offensive and would unequivocally qualify as racist, but pouhe's comments were the ones that drew a response while texxx was ignored. Why?

    I did a 'search posts by' scan for pouhe. For the concocted identity of a racist, he sure has spent a whole lot of time in threads talking about songs and TV shows, and has gone to a whole lot of trouble to create a back story.

    From outside I can only guess at what is really going on inside you, but my working hypothesis to this point is that your reaction to pouhe is like the reaction to Tom in the courtroom when he is 'outed' by Adam West for being married to a white woman, and is basically vilified by the jury.

    It is one thing to be 'the enemy'. The enemy can't help being what it is, as it was born in another country, or part of another religion, but people through history have always reserved a special place of dishonor for 'traitors'. Of course, I realize that I am apt to be wrong about such things. I apologize to you if that is a characterization that is incorrect or inappropriate, but that is how I've interpreted it.
     
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  12. SWTsig

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    The white man call himself civilized

    Cause he know how to take over

    The white man come to pillage my village

    Now he tell me I have to bend over


    Oh yeah, kill all the white man


    No I dont like the white man up in me

    He rape my people as he rape my country

    Everything I love and cherish, he try to take away

    We will be rid of him, soon come the day


    Oh yeah, kill all the white man

    Oh yeah, kill all the white man

    Oh yeah, kill all the white man

    Oh yeah, kill all the white man
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Funny
    I don't identify with Riley much at all. . .



    Tom is a good guy
    unfortunately - if you must know he represents a problem I have with Black TV in general
    An educated intelligent black person is always ultra Naive, uncool [nerd] and of course married to a white woman
    They are often depicted in an unfavorable light
    [Tommy - from Martin, BRaxton - from Jamie Fox Show, and of course Urkel]

    In as much Tom is often shown as dorky and nerdy but generally a positive person and personality.

    BigTexx is what he is. . and he has been for a while
    Pouhe irks me because of his 'IT'S THE LEAST I CAN DO' Post
    which had IMO shades of Uncle Ruckus

    some folx are persistant. . others are simply New Yorker

    Pouhe type posts are the ones racist latch onto
    [See the Episode where Ruckus makes the Church . . goes to heaven and meets Reagan]
    I have seen many of his post that seem to defend racism and borderline state that it is justified . .. which was the one I responded too .

    Since you have been so cordial about it . .I will attempt to leave him be
    and not respond to the . . uhm . . . bait

    Rocket River
    and for the record. . . check my posts. . . I have a severe hatred of R Kelly and the treatment his given.
     
  14. RocketManJosh

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    You're right ... Maybe he should require you to pass a test to make sure you understand the poem. We should all take the test right before you vote, and if you don't pass, you're vote doesn't count. Lets start the movement brother!
     
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    It seems like more and more posters on clutchfans are really just alternate nicks. I mean according to some people a quarter of board is alternate nicks for NewYorker another quarter is Macbeth sneaking in, most of the rest are YOF clones. At this rate it wouldn't surprise me if I end up being Deckard's replicant nick..

    ;) ;)
     
  16. God's Son

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    sorry but the white man is a construct not an actual white race but white policies and white establishment thats forcing itself on the rest of the world.

    white man is the power hierarchy thats oppressing the rest of the world culturally and economically.

    white man interferes in everything because he wants to rule everyone and wants to keep everyone below him like making sure they have monopoly on weapons technology so they can easier kill others when they have to.

    i dont care what you think cause i know its the truth and people around the world see it for what it is
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Kill whitey.

    Get it done.
     
  18. Dairy Ashford

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    Even though I don't think I merit even half the mentions I've gotten in this thread (and you seem to be joking), I'll go ahead and state again, for the record, that I'm pretty much who I say I am. But as long as the suspicion detracts attention from my real flaws, I guess I can't complain.

    I imagine logging and posting ip addresses might make this discussion somewhat moot?
     
  19. God's Son

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    dont believe in violence so no thanx

    i just want more equality in the world and that means ending white monopoly on power
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Says the person who's reading comprehension was shown to be below that of impoverished 3rd graders who are also second language learners. I'll never forget your inability to understand rimmy's comment about dipping people into freezing water.
     

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