I do find it highly amusing that some posters on this BBS think that what they say actually impacts what will happen in November. Think about a few things for a moment: 1) Not many people read the D&D Forum 2) The people that do read it are so entrenched in their thinking that they aren't changing one thing. 3) The majority of the people who read this are Texans or international. The internationals don't vote, and the liberals voting in Texas are wasting their time, given W's dominance here. Given points 1-3, I get the *laugh of all laughs* when I see the army of liberal bittermen lining up to attack my posts. To know that I have successfully altered your emotions to the point where you feel that you have to respond with insults is the sign of VICTORY. I own your emotions. I own your feelings. I control your time and energy.
You're the only one out of thousands of posters who perform "psychological warfare" on others. The rest of us, this is just a place to go when we're bored at work or what not. To think in terms of owning people on an internet message board actually proves it's you that's under our control. You just need to find Mr. Right. Don't look for my profile, it's not there anymore.
The documents indicate Bush received pay for six days of duty between May and December of 1972 when he was assigned to temporary duty in Alabama. There is a five-month stretch at the start of 1972 when he was not paid for service. The records do not indicate what duty Bush performed or where he was. The White House has not been able to produce fellow guardsmen who could testify that Bush attended guard meetings and drills. "Obviously we would have made people available" if they had been found, McClellan said.
I've found this place pretty good for getting the latest info and whats going on, and I like to hear the liberal side of the argument, so I mean, its more than just a place to go when I'm bored.
twhy77 knew that, he was just taking advantage of your simple LIBERAL mind to make you respond. Clearly you don't have the wherewithall to engage in this kind of psychological warfare. If you can't compete, wrap some ice around your fingers and stay on the sidelines, liberallunaticfringebleedingheartsaddamlovingaaarrrggghhhbonesawsocilaistcasecloseddoyouhaveanysmallbillsimgoingtoseemygirfriend. OWNED
Aren't you the guy who was allegedly dating someone in the adult entertainment business? Or were you speaking to yourself with this criticism, because I for one have never called a stripper/dancer/porno slut a 'girlfriend'. GOOD DAY
At least you've never called one a girlfriend without the prim and proper word "temporary" in front of the word "girlfriend". ADIOS
Mac Owens makes an excellent point above, that whatever you think of Bush's service in the guard, it's important to remember what he was doing: flying fighter jet aircraft, which is only marginally less dangerous when people aren't shooting at you than when they are. he wasn't tooling around oxford. didn't write this, but wish i had. my new sig, i think: "As individuals, we can all trust our lives to Senator Kerry's courage; as a nation we cannot afford to trust America's future to his judgment."
Actually he was only doing this for a small portion of the time. Then he was declared unfit to fly, and of course people are still trying to figure out about the period when he didn't show up. So he wasn't such a brave fly-boy after all.
more from the AP wire: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040211/D80KN5DG2.html ... Bush was not paid for any service during a five-month period in 1972, from May through September, according to the records released with Bush's approval Tuesday. He was paid for two days in October and four days in November and none in December 1972. He was not paid for February or March 1973. The records do not indicate what duty Bush performed or where he was. ... Retired Army Col. Dan Smith, a 26-year military veteran, questioned the usefulness of the latest information released by the White House. "Pay records don't mean anything except that you're in or you're out," said Smith. "It doesn't necessarily reflect what duty you've actually performed because pay records simply record your unit of assignment and then all of your pay and benefits per pay period." Lt. Col. Scott Gorske, a 23-year Guardsman with experience in personnel issues, said there is no requirement for National Guard members to drill every month. They are required to train a certain amount of time each year. It appears Bush met that requirement, said Gorske, who reviewed the documents.
You know, if GWB wants to put this to rest, how about a sworn affidavit stating that he showed up for duty, etc. on the dates in question? That would pretty much refute anything that anybody tried to toss at him. Not that I think he should do this necessarily; either he shouldn't dignifiy it with a response if he doesn't think its valid, or he should come clean about the whole thing and leave no doubt. This bizarre half denial piecemeal strategy w/inconclusive stuff like the payroll records ain't doing him any favors and just makes him loook worse.
He just needs to do one thing, release all his National Guard records and renounce his right to privacy on those and we could put this baby to rest. Since he has not there are two objectives that come to mind: an October surprise where he actually releases all of the records or a real fire where all this smoke is.
Bush's Vietnam-Era Military Records Show Gaps By Randall Mikkelsen WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush was absent for long periods of his final two years of National Guard duty but met service requirements, according to new records cited by the White House in an effort to refute accusations he shirked Vietnam War-era military obligations. Although the records, some of which had been previously released, were not fully legible, Lloyd said they reflected that Bush earned the required number of service points. The documents show long gaps in Bush's Guard service, from May through late October 1972, and mid-January through early April 1973. Bush spent part of the fall of 1972 working on a political campaign in Alabama, but he performed "equivalent duty" while out of Texas, McClellan said. The records show Bush earned service points and was paid for duty in late October and November of 1972, but officials could not specify which dates he served in Alabama. They also could not explain the gap in 1973. The records may not end the controversy. The Democratic Party said in a statement, "There is still no evidence that George W. Bush showed up for duty as ordered while in Alabama." It noted an evaluation report from superiors in Texas said Bush had not been "observed" from April 1972 to May 1973. Full Article: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=2&u=/nm/20040211/pl_nm/campaign_bush_dc
Kind of on the topic, but did anyone see the press conference? Scott MacClellen was getting hammered. He didn't answer many of the questions, and then seemed shocked that after handing out the documents which were, apparently, almost illegible that people would ask questions about the documents. MacClellen just kept saying the same thing over and over, and it usually had little to do with the question asked. I was curious what anyone else who saw this spectacle was thinking? The whole situation seemed pretty combative to me.
