I think Amare is in the same category with Joe Johnson and Marion. Nash gets all of the credit and none of the blame. The suns poor defense starts with nash, yet everyone is enamored with the asst and everything else. People said Nash made Johnson, but look at Johnson since he's been in Atl. Marion was a all star with Marbury. Amare has stepped up when Nash has been out. I think if by some dream or fantasy he is brought here, He'll give Yao more room , finish more plays and make teams focus on him also. Amare played well last year with shaq and its not like he's playing like a scrub this year. he gets to the line as much if not more than yao which helps this team stay out of a drought or get into the penalty quicker. Amare is really,really good and he was killing La and Sa in the playoffs.
You have a point but look at Marion. He aint s#!t without Dantoni and Nash. He plays with a good playmaker in Wade but he is nowhere near the same player called the Matrix. Nash sucks on defence but its not his fault Amare is a bad man defender. But you cant deny Nash had been spoonfeeding Amare in Dantoni's system. Stats prove that when Nash was out. When Amare was out a whole season look how far they went."He'll give Yao more room , finish more plays and make teams focus on him also." The same way he does with Shaq? No."Amare played well last year with shaq and its not like he's playing like a scrub this year." Yeah in Dantoni's run'n gun system when you dont have to play defence with Nash as his MVP PG. How will he look in a more halfcourt syle of system like ours? He is having to play ina halfcourt game now and not being as productive even with Nash at PG. We will get the same no defence Amare with worse production without Nash and Dantoni.
I think Artest brings more to the table, no Kirk please. 10 mil per year, c'mon, he's not even starting.
Both trades are losing trades, and severely underestimate Artest's value. These are the types of trades fans come up with when a player on their team is underperforming (see the myriad of T-Mac for a sack of peanuts trade suggestions earlier this season). You don't trade Artest for Hinrich. You just don't do it, unless you are a foolish GM. The Amare trade is perhaps more palatable, but to give up the talent of both Artest and Scola for a player who generally performs on only one end of the court and has had major knee surgery is *not* a good deal.
Marion has struggled because he's been hurt and playing less minutes. Amare can receive easy passes,alley oops and such from tracy. Also in this so called motion offense, when he gets the ball at the ft line, he is a threat to pass, shoot or dribble drive. Landry can shoot from there, scola can also, but neither can do all three or even 2 of them.. He's still playing pretty good, but as he said and anyone that watches, how can anyone play good defense when nash doesnt even make his man reverese dribble? All guys do is 1st step by nash and in the lane too easy.
Hinrich's salary actualy decrease next year and so on. I'd go with hinrich at this point. With hinrich, we will have no weakness in our starting lineup.
Marion was overated and he isnt worth his salery. "Amare can receive easy passes,alley oops and such from tracy." Yes he could but why does it have to T-Mac all the damn time? T-Mac is our only real playmaker and he's a SG/Sf. His succes would be determined by T-Macs playmaking which is really good but he's not as good as Nash. For me thats a problem for a player making as much as Yao. If we make a trade it should be for a PG witch is this teams area of need. Neither Scola or Landy is more talented than Amare but they do a good job a PF. The Rockets dont have a hole or problem at PF poaition. Do you have a problem with Scola and Landry? On this team would Amare be worth as much as Yao? Because he makes the about the same. Would you want him your team's "Main Man" leader? Thats what he wants to be.
I think the game last night made a great argument as to why Amare would be a great fit here. Yao just does not have the quickness to stay with some of the more athletic centers in the game and it hurts the Rockets.
Marion was overated and he isnt worth his salery. "Amare can receive easy passes,alley oops and such from tracy." Yes he could but why does it have to T-Mac all the damn time? T-Mac is our only real playmaker and he's a SG/Sf. His succes would be determined by T-Macs playmaking which is really good but he's not as good as Nash. For me thats a problem for a player making as much as Yao. If we make a trade it should be for a PG which is this teams area of need. Neither Scola or Landy is more talented than Amare but they do a good job a PF. The Rockets dont have a hole or problem at PF poaition. Do you have a problem with Scola and Landry? On this team would Amare be worth as much as Yao? Because he makes the about the same. Would you want him your team's "Main Man" leader? Thats what he wants to be.
Excuse me for saying this, but i dont think this team has a leader which is part of the problem. Yao is probably the best player, but does he get on people for blowing assignments? Does he instruct players at criticl junctions to get him the ball?
g You're right about Yao, he doesnt do that. But if he did he be riding Amare for blowing assignments from the first whistle to the last buzzer. But back to my question, Why would Amare do good here if he is best in a run'n gun, no defence system with one of the best playmaking PG's in the nba. We are like the opposite of what he is proven to succed in. Bad PG, slow paced halfcourt team that plays above average to great defence with a dominante C(like Shaq) in the paint. What is the basis of your arguement?
