its a hard choice, first Amare would be awesome, i could imagine run yao and tracy pick and roll, two defender coming over to tracy, yao roll to the basket, tracy pass it to yao, double team come over to help on yao again, amare is wide open, easy two second ralfer, he is so up and down, when he is hot, he is doing amazing but when he is not, he just suck.Kirnch would be awesome cause he bring so much more to table just by being consistent, but his contact its a problem, 10 mil its a lot. third if everyone its getting better and better like last night, no trade id needed, i have faith in them. one more thing its the newly build chemistry, if you bring in a new player, we have to start from square one again, getting everyone together, building the chemistry again.
Hinrich. Since the day the Bulls got the #1 pick, I've had my fingers crossed for him. His stats have slumped since two years ago, but I think that has just as much to do with trouble in Chicago than it does anything else. He's a good distributor and a smart player, and I think he'd flourish with all the other scoring options around him. That '06-'07 season is what he's capable of, when he's got a consistent environment around him. '07-'08 started off badly (with the coaching situation) for the Bulls and never got better, Deng missed some games, and the roster was constantly in flux. Now he's second fiddle to Derrick Rose, as he should be, but far less than his abilities could provide to a team. $10M seems like a lot... but is it for a solid, consistent point guard? Admittedly, it IS a risk, because no one really knows if he can return to his '06-'07 form with a change of scenery. But if he does, that's 45% from the field, 40% from 3, and a 6-7 assists a game. We'd only have him until he's 31, long before point guards like him experience a significant drop off. Just a thought. I'm simply displeased with the way the Ron Artest Experiment has gone thus far.
I'm not voting for any of those options, because I feel like we need a trade, but Artest is not the guy to trade.
I voted for the Hinrich trade but Im really torn on this. I like Hinrich because he is the type of PG we have needed for years but I dont want to trade Artest's talent and playoff potential. Maybe replace Artest with Battier but I like Shane on and off the court and what if Ron doesn't resign? Every other game the Rockets seem to come together and than they go out and lay an egg. If they were healthy at the beginning of the season we would have a better idea of what the big 3 can achieve. To make or to no make changes that is the question.
Kirk is overpaid for what he does. Amare doesn't play defense; he needs to sign with the Knicks or something
How about an alteration to the original and an additional trade: Trade 1: Houston Trades: - Ron Artest - Carl Landry ( I believe that Scola is much smarter and ultimately more healthy player than Landry) - Luther Head Phoenix Trades: - Amare Stoudemire - 2nd Rd. Pick Trade 2: Houston Trades: - Tracy McGrady - Chuck Hayes Detroit Trades: - Rip Hamilton - Rasheed Wallace New Line-Up: P.G. - Alston_______Brooks S.G. - Hamilton_____Wafer S.F. - Battier_______Barry P.F. - Stoudemire___ Scola_____ Dorsey ...C. - Yao_________Wallace____Mutombo The only problem is that we now have 3 open slots to fill but DAMN we are DEEP!!! Now we are sniffing the Finals!!!
I dont get why people think Amare would be better here with a worse PG, playing in a halfcourt game with a Big Man that demands(deserves) the ball more than Shaq. Give me 1 reason why besides his talent. People are looking at talent not area of need, chemistry, or fit. Artest has talent but he was to atleast help with T-Mac's absence and hes played for Rick. With this trade we are way to deep at the 4 and 5. No way we could even utilize this talent properly with limited minutes and our only playmaker is (what ) Rafeer Alston.
Crash- Thats pretty good and i'm cool and have some thoughts about both. Hinrich is a good player and i'm all for now, but hinrich has 4 or 5 yrs left on a descending contract. Now His money doesnt mean it takes you out the 10 sweeps, but it makes it ifferent. Hinrich is a better pg than rafer, personally, i'd rather just go with Brooks and have a better backup and some depth. My problem also thinks about what happens in the playoffs when Tracy and yao are kinda struggling, who will get the slack if ron is part of the trade? Amare is making a strong position even stronger. I think people are underestimating his impact by just looking at scolandry's combined numbers, but the guy led the league in bucket plus the foul which means he's attacking the hoop. he's a elite level player which doesnt hurt either. He's still young and like someone said, he can slide and play center. At least i know that he draws fouls, has a really good mid range shot, a good ft shooter, and whether people belive it or not, he would get the same shots, and score just as many point because tracy would rather just pass than score anyway. I guess it just depends on the cost or package. If i could get Amare, i would probably got that route because of his production now, plus his ceiling. Kirk would be cool to, but i dont think he's a 10m pg for the next 4. now it depends on what else we could get along with hinrich. I always have trade scenerios, its just a matter of if the gm really wants to do something.
I like the Artest, Scola, Head for Amare trade...although we could be giving up a little too much. Amare is a good free throw shooter ...he and Rafer can do pick n roll like he did with Steve Nash and attack the basket and draw fouls. This also let Yao rest more. Rafer pick n roll with Amare and Yao pick n roll with Tmac...PERFECT!! So now we can have Battier back to the lineup as originally intended. Yao Amare Battier Tmac and Rafer. I don't know about this trade but i am also thinking of Tmac for Amare because Tmac just isn't as consistent anymore. At least with Amare...now we have Yao Amare Artest Battier and Rafer. Now we can put both Artest and Battier on the court at the same time.
Like i said before...this team needs a shake up ....seriously, it DOES NOT work. Did you see last night's game?? They were down by 15 to the Wolves!! The f*kin WOLVES at THEIR HOMECOURT!!! I thought they were playing the Orlando Magic...but man, you don't go down by 15 at your own court especially when you have all the players back from injury. This just show you that this team just ain't clicking and need to be fixed. Something need to be done. And it's not just this game, they played some weak azz teams several weeks back and lost to some of them too...AT THEIR OWN COURTS!!! Ridiculous!! It's time to trade because like they said, if it ain't working....it ain't working man ....no matter how hard to try..this team has already played so many games already and they have proven one thing: very inconsistent.
Corey Maggetie has lead the league in drawing fouls to. Does that really make him all that?Amare makes as much as Yao and he wants to be the man. What can he do with Yao that he cant do with Shaq. Yeah, he will play better because we have the "Great Skip to my Lou" instead of that super scrub buster Nash.
Im not trying to attack you guys but can you please tell me what can Amare do with Alston at PG and Yao in the paint that he cant do with Nash at PG and Shaq in the paint?
Trade No One. We Have Everything We Need to Win the Championship..unless it is Rafer and possibly someone else for a point guard who can either shoot consistently or make great passes.