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Which starter is playing with the least energy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by basketballholic, May 10, 2015.

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Which starter is playing with the least energy?

  1. Harden

    178 vote(s)
    59.3%
  2. Howard

    9 vote(s)
    3.0%
  3. Jones

    88 vote(s)
    29.3%
  4. Jet

    12 vote(s)
    4.0%
  5. Ariza

    13 vote(s)
    4.3%
  1. juanm34

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    PBev has been the most disappointing
     
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    He hasn't scored a SINGLE point during the playoffs this year! Where is Lin when we need him?
     
  3. J Sizzle

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    Singling out Terrence Jones of all people in this colossal failure of a series is both laughable and embarrassing, even for basketballholic and his tired agenda.
     
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    Height? Not by much. Maybe an inch. Some dude kept pointing out Terrence's neck. But that's crazy.

    And athleticism? We all know he's got great athleticism. So they can't be that much better.

    Besides. .....how much athleticism does Kevin love have? He can barely jump over a piece of paper. And height? Millsap is shorter than Terrence. Zach Randolph is only 6-9 too. Terrence is just as long as Zach.

    Oh, he's 252 lbs too. So he's not undersized either.

    Remember, I've brought up all these points about Terrence's size and length going against starting 4's in the West, pointing out all these things, only to be told how athletic Terrence is and that he isn't undersized.

    Now you're attempting to justify his lack of effort with his lack of size.

    Here's the facts: Terrence is undersized, under-skilled, and lacking in motor. He's all of those.
     
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    If I were singling out anyone it would be McHale for his lack of recognition and lack of adjustment. This board is doing an excellent job of putting this colossal failure on James Harden. And for that reason I have issue. For people to single out our best player and and arguably the best player in the league as the chief culprit of the alleged chief culprit of lack of energy is beyond ridiculous. This poll was just a simple test. It shows people will go to any length to defend their pet player, even to the extent of blaming the MVP, when it is blatantly clear that their pet player doesn't belong in the starting lineup of a playoff team. Beyond ridiculous.
     
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    again this poll specifically talking about ENERGY. I'm still surprised you're not understanding this completely yet. You're confusing energy in itself with overall play.
     
  7. Deuce

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    I don't think "energy" is as much an issue as is not playing "smart" or "executing." There was some lack of energy in game 1, but got better for game 2 and 3.

    Bad offense leading to bad transition defense leading to easy points for LAC has killed the Rockets.

    Every run that LAC gets on to overtake the game starts with Hou turnovers, missed shots or poor shots.

    The Rockets would do themselves more favors defensively if they would be a more disciplined "half court offense" and treat "fast break points" as "value add" to their team, instead of a "necessity."
     
  8. malakas

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    He's NOT undersized for the modern NBA that is heading more and more towards smallball.
    Is he underskilled? IMO yes. He hasn't shown the improvement you would like from a 3rd year player. You would expect a good showing from 3rd and 4rth year players in the playoffs. A lot of players who were considered to be lacking improvement, already have shown a lot in this years playoffs..like Meyers Henson Snell and Macollum. Even Tristan Thompson who is severelly underskilled has shown something. Even Rivers ... Not TJ.

    This forum is weird. Why this DMO Tjones war? You all would want TJones to be good even if you don't want him for next season because the worse he shows in the Playoffs the lower his trading value would be.
    Right now he looks like a good back up PF imo. The next year is his contract year so let's see.
     
  9. KlutchQT

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    Well, this thread backfired. LOL.
     
  10. jayhow92

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    Since I can't pick Smith, I'm going with Jones. He looks awful out there.

    The real issue is coaching. McHale was able to topple Rick simply because we were just a more talented team. Now that we're going up against a stronger opponent, we can't simply beat them with our talent and McHale isn't adjusting to that.
     
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    Now that is what I call Laughable. I'm not even going to go there. If you are happy with Terry's perimeter defense then you just sit there and feel good about yourself and your convictions Jopat.


    As always you didn't even really read what I said.

    Terry is old, and has no lateral movement. But you want to talk about effort and energy? What does that even mean. Either you do what needs to be done in order to be a productive basketball player or you don't.

    Energy is a primary catalyst for basketball production because basketball is a game of movement. Movement requires said energy. Movement of the feet, legs, arms, etc. etc. Energy is movement basically, and Terry doesn't move very well. Therefore I am more than comfortable saying that Terry didn't provide adequate energy in this series, and hasn't in comparison to a normal starting NBA point guard on a contending team.



    Umm... pretty sure I just said that Jones was to blame as well. You can pass the buck however you choose, but I simply chose a higher area of need on the Rockets. Stop getting all bent up out of shape about how much you think people here love Jones.

    Also.... I thought you blocked me. I guess you just can't resist a good ole Jones Only Fan. Because apparently just because I dont agree that he's pure crap on a stick, I'm a Jones Only Fan.

    Have fun this Summer with your random trade ideas Jopat. I can't wait to see your 8 team trade concoctions designed to A. Get rid of Jones, and B. acquire a journeyman 9th rotation player that you claim is the next greatest thing. How is Rubio, Ilyasova, Jason Smith, Derrick Williams, etc. etc. etc. doing nowadays in the playoffs?
     
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    They're all doing better than Jones. Because they aren't hurting the team anywhere near what Jones is. LOL
     
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    Absolute truth here.
     
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    That's what you think. :cool:
     
  15. DudeWah

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    Jones has always been overrated by the majority of Clutchfans. Dude is bad.

    Hated the josh smith signing for this reason all along.

    Dmo was our best pf and third best player. Additionally, if we had actually developed papa through the season instead of gluing his ass to the bench due to signing smith, we'd be in a better position now. I don't know how much better, but definitely better.
     
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    Terrence can't play small ball and you know it. If he could play small ball we'd likely be winning this series right now. Terrence has no offensive game outside of 3 feet from the rim. And no he can't create for others either. And when he goes up against legit bigs he gets his layups and dunk attempts shoved straight down in his face.

    He has shown no improvement over 3 seasons now. Playing time is not improvement. Same crappy jump shot. Same crappy defense and mediocre rebounding when we play good opponents. Same bloated meaningless stats against crappy defenses and individual defenders.

    This forum is weird. Over 60% of them blame our most outstanding player for the teams lack of energy and almost 3/4 of them give a pass the the worst performing starter and blame one of the other starters for being the most energy deficient.

    Right now, Terrence looks like a good backup PF for the New York Liberty.
     
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    Was Howard out of the game by then?

    Just asking, because I couldn't stomach any more and turned to GoT.

    Is Rick Fox right? Is Harden great when Dwight isn't in the rotation, when we're not throwing it into the post?

    Btw, if anyone sees Josh Smith or Corey Brewer, let'em know the second round started.
     
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    I picked Jones, and the reason I did was because energy and hustle is pretty much all he ever brought to the table as a player to begin with so it's a lot more glaring when it's missing.

    Smith is probably a better answer, but it wasn't an option. Both PF's have been worthless.
     
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