Which one of our stack of young PFs has the most chance to become a superstar?

Superstar? I gotta go TRob.... of course, he's prob also got the greatest bust potential too.... Highest ceiling and lowest basement - everyone else falls in between...

 

t-Rob has the most potential to be a star PF since he already has a knack for getting rebounds. The problem with him is that he looks lost, not dissimilar to Marcus Morris in his 1st year. Morris improved significantly in 2nd year, enough to start a few games for us. So... here is hoping that T-Rob works his butt off this summer and is able to justify his high draft pick.

 

Highest ceiling: DMo. If he could bulk up and shoot threes like Dirk, he could be something special. He is also the most risky. He could be Bargs or Skita or any kind of bust if he doesn't play defense and rebound. I think he has the most chance to become a superstar, albeit slim. He will probably be the backup center for a while.

Jones doesn't have as high a ceiling but IMO it is pretty safe that he would pan out. He has already got the all around game, shooting, rebounding, post moves, cutting, shot blocking; if he becomes better at man defense and PnR I think he will at least be a borderline all star.

DRob unfortunately would have to acquire elite SF skills to become a superstar and I think there is only a very very slim chance that happens. He is undersized as a 4 and doesn't seem to be very good at playing in the post. I think the role of sixth man would fit him very well.

Royce White: I still don't know why he didn't play in the Vipers' playoffs. Too much pressure? Too competitive? He's got talents but doesn't seem to be very motivated.

 

Dmo. You cant teach post moves. Look at howard

 

D-Mo has to most potential IMO, his skill set at his size is a rarity. Just need's to improve physically and defensively.

Last year he came in a little cocky, but after having a taste of humble pie in the NBA, I expect great improvement from him this off-season.

 

T-Rob and thats only IF he lives up to his potential.

 

I pretty much agree with every thing that Sensation said. I hate to say this, but most superstars tend to come out at the very top of the draft or show loads of potential and production, very early on (being main go to guy or even regular starter on a very bad team). ALot of these guys being sent backwards and forwards to the D-League shows that they need alot of work in their game, while I think asking for an all-star appearance from any of them is asking a little much.

 

So...was Robinson a reach at #5? Does he just need more time or did Sacramento decide that they made a mistake drafting him?

Due to his draft status and the fact that this is his rookie year, I'd default him to be the one to become a star. Just wondering what happened to him this year. I expected better things out of D-Mo but he's more likely to become David Andersen with a V-Span attitude than anything special. I cringed watching him camp the 3 all the time.

 

TRob is still very raw. His role for the next year IMO should be energy off the bench. He is a tweener in that he is somewhat undersized to be a very good PF in this league but he doesn't have very good SF skills. He is quite good at rebounding, running the floor and garbage points. A training camp with the team would also help. I think his future lies in playing SF, he should develop a jumper and better handling. Another tweener, what's going on?

 

I hope he can become Faried like, might have to settle for Faried-lite

 

That'd be nice but I don't get the sense that they are very similar. I feel like Faried is raw power whereas TRob is agility. I don't think TRob can overpower people in this league. I think he has to be more finesse and add some SF/guard skills in order to become really effective.

 

This thread should be renamed to be "Which one of our young power forwards actually have a chance to stay in the NBA."

 

About T-Rob,

I'd have to agree with Panda23. His upside is a Faried-like player, great athleticism and great hops. He has to learn where he needs to be on the floor and how to expend his energy. Off-season and training camp, I'm trusting in the coaching staff to really bring him along.

Unfortunately, I have to disagree with TJ VS TR. I don't think he is a SF although with some coaching he could be a very good defender of SF, especially oversized ones like Durant. Its very difficult to develop a jump shot in one off-season, my after a few years, but I don't think Robinson is really an offensive type of player, rather a high energy athlete exactly like Faried.

 

From what we've seen so far, T-Jones is the most ready of all our PFs and I think also got the most potential to be great. He's got a good temperament. He positions well and has a motor. I think he has underrated athleticism, he can jump through the roof for blocks and put backs as we've witnesses. He has shown glimpses of agility in being able to take people off the dribble and drive to the basket but its still very raw and needs refinement. T-Jones does have shooting skills and can make the 3. He needs more practice and confidence and I think he has an ability to develop into an strong athletic stretch 4. He is much like Patrick Patterson except with shot blocking and rebounding ability. He could also swing between the 3 and 4 spot. He has a defensive game and mentality which I like about him the most. We have to many scorers in this league and on our team, by developing his defensive skills he could really carve aout a niche for himself and get that starters position (possibly next to Dwight) once he gets a starters position on this team which will be contending, he can make a name for himself and rise to become a superstar.

 

Serge Ibaka? Is great?

Btw you know in common terms elite < great right?

 

Nice post.

One decided difference between Faried and TRob is their build. Faried has broad shoulders while TRob has narrow ones. You are right that he is not a SF, it's difficult to develop a jump shot quickly but that's why he isn't so good now. Because of his undersized build, he won't be as effective as Faried being that kind of player. IMO he is that kind of player but a poor man's Faried. Faried dominates game with his ability while TRob could only be very effective off the bench.

Again, to be in line with the spirit of the OP, IMO for TRob to be a star, the Faried road is not the one to take; it might take longer but developing more skills and craft is the way.

 

Superstar is too much. Still for being something as 2nd best man on the team, huge complimentary guy and a smilpe all-star it's hands down D-MO. Main reason for that is that nba community (fans, media and even team staff) always downgrade them. 2nd reason, international players always take more time to develop (or teams take more time to give them reasonable minutes).

just by looking at best power forwards in previous decade and their attributes (draft No., minutes played in 1st season, age of 1st season).

Americans:
K. Garnett (5th, 29 mins, 19 yrs)
T. Duncan (1st, 39 mins, 21 yrs)
K. Love (5th, 25 mins, 20 yrs)
L. Aldridge (2nd, 22 mins, 21 yrs)
B. Griffin (1st, 38 mins, 21 yrs)
J. Smith (17th, 28 mins, 19 yrs)
A. Davis (1st, 29 mins, 19 yrs)
Z. Randolph (19th, 6 mins, 20 yrs) - one rare exception of american star who was ignored in the beginning of a career.
A. Stoudemire (9th, 31 mins, 20 yrs)

International:
P. Gasol (3rd, 37 mins, 21 yrs) - the only one exception of being both drafted high and given minutes from start season. But it's Pau.
M.Gasol (48th, 31 mins, 23 yrs) - was already 23 entering nba, thus more minutes.
D. Nowitzki (9th, 20 mins, 21 yrs)
S. Ibaka (24th, 18 mins, 20 yrs)
D. Galinari (6th, 15 mins, 20 yrs) - small ball PF and not a star yet
L. Scola (56th, 25 mins, 27 yrs) - already a pro entering nba, still just 25 mins.

due little selection of international players, lets look at other int. stars:
t. parker (28th, 30 mins, 19 yrs)
p. stojakovic (9th, 21 mins, 21 yrs)
m. ginobili (57th, 20 mins, 25 yrs)
o. asik (36th, 10 mins, 25 yrs)
a. kirilenko (24th, 26 mins, 20 yrs)
h. turkoglu (16th, 17 mins, 21 yrs)
n. pekovic (31th, 14 mins, 24 yrs)

A summary: in most of the times, american stars are star headed form the very first season. International stars often were ignored in 1st season, drafted low, came to nba later.

Conslusion: T. Jones, T.Rob, G.Smith has already been exposed as non stars. For D-mo everything is still ahead.

 

TRob is the most athletically and physically intimidating among the three. He's raw but has the highest ceiling; showed a good spin move but not much else. A summer of hard work and a full training camp will do wonders for him. Possible all star level in three years.

TJones will be solid, a JSmoov Lite if you will. Starter quality PF on most nights.

Dmo is a finesse type of player, his offenses will always be better than his D; just can't teach toughness. Plays a bit like David Lee but Lee can always rebound, not Dmo.