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Which Laker Trade Was More Lop Sided?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by darmor90, Aug 10, 2012.

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Which Trade Was More Lop Sided?

  1. Pau Gasol for Marc Gasol and cap space

    42 vote(s)
    21.6%
  2. Dwight Howard for Vucevic, Harkless, Afflalo, Harrington, and 3 low 1st round picks

    152 vote(s)
    78.4%
  1. darmor90

    darmor90 Member

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    The Gasol trade or The Dwight trade.

    In hind sight, Marc Gasol made that trade not so bad for Memphis. So I'm gonna have to go with this recent trade.

    BTW, WHY THE HELL DO TEAMS JUST GIVE PLAYERS TO THE LAKERS!!!
     
  2. snc

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    Many reasons. Mostly, basketball.
     
  3. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Christ...the Lakers essentially traded Bynum for Howard. How is this lopsided.

    just stop it people

    everyone in the world said the Lakers were a contender to get Howard if they were willing to give up Bynum. Just because the Magic let the 76ers take Bynum, doesn't mean they stole Howard
     
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  4. clippy

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    The Gasol trade was a complete joke. This trade is somewhat fair; probably Orlando should have unloaded a bad contract onto LA but eh. I have no idea why Orlando didn't just keep Bynum for themselves though, but that has nothing to do with LA.
     
  5. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    The Lakers didn't steal Howard, I'll give you that, but Orlando sure as hell got robbed.
     
  6. darmor90

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    Howard > Bynum
    Lakers trade Howard for Bynum

    You don't need to have Morey's equations to know the Lakers upgraded for nothing; it's just simple math
     
  7. Air Langhi

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    Pau gasol was never a top 5 or top 10 player. At least the griz got salary relief. It was a also a terrible deal that somehow turned out ok.
     
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    The issue isnt that the Lakers didnt give up anything....its that ORL got zero building assets for the future...their picks are really worthless...smh bad...
     
  9. heypartner

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    A 4-way blockbuster where everything seems fair between three teams now becomes a lopsided Laker's trade is just a odd twist to the story.

    Apparently ORL didn't want Bynum I guess. But the trade doesn't happen without Bynum.
     
  10. darmor90

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    Definitely agree, I'm just pointing out the Lakers "luck"
     
  11. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Reread the title of the thread and the poll.

    Why is the OP calling it a lopsided trade for the Lakers if "the issue isn't that the Lakers didn't give up anything?"

    We know ORL haul is a head scratcher, but why is this about the Lakers stealing Howard now? It doesn't happen without Bynum being involved.
     
  12. JuanValdez

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    This. The poll sucks.
     
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    This.
     
  14. JayZ750

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    This is the same analysis that would occur for any trade.

    If the Rockets traded Martin+ for Dwight, the analysis would be Dwight > Martin.

    If the Nets traded Lopez+ for Dwight, the analysis would be Dwight > Lopez.

    Dwight was an upcoming FA who had been pretty clear and vocal about not resigning with the Magic. He also ran that process through the press and his agent, effectively minimizing his trade value.

    In no scenario was the Magic going to be winning the trade from a value perspective.

    The issue here, as many have pointed out to you, is that the Magic seemed to take the worst offer for whatever reason. It is mindblowingly bad. Nobody can figure it out. They would have literally been better off with every other rumored offer, even if you discounted the rumored trade by 25%.

    Finally consider that Dwight effectively said I am only going to resign with the Lakers or Nets (even though he didn't even say that), and his agent clearly was pushing as many strings as he possibly could behind the scenes.... strings which may ultimately be the reason the Magic chose this horrible deal.

    The Lakers didn't pull a fast one on anybody here. They certainly did on the Gasol trade.
     
  15. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    "Luck" People have been saying for 50,492 hours that the Lakers are a contender to get Howard if they are willing to trade Bynum. And no one really ever said Bynum would land with ORL.

    This was predicted in many different variations. Yes, we are surprised ORL didn't take other deals, but the Lakers have been working the Bynum-based trade for 2,107 years now.
     
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    So according to your "logic" every single 1 for 1 deal in NBA history is lopsided. Stop talking.
     
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    Im shocked that the Lakers didnt lose Pau as well...but so is the life of the rich and powerful...David Stern said...sorry about the basketball reasons...ill make it up to you...

    Hey Rockets fans...think about this...Kobe is like set to make 27 mil plus Pau 19...Im not even sure how much Nash makes...and definitely expect Dwight to cost in the neighborhood of 20-23 mil/year...they will be paying the luxury...and in 2-3 years almost 3:1 on the dollar...

    This realistically is only gonna last about 1-2 years...Nash and Kobe will wear down...

    I expect Pau to be traded sometimes this season...for something a bit cheaper...

    Eff you David Scumbag Stern...you have effed over the city of Houston...
     
  18. pippendagimp

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    this (obviously).
     
  19. SamFisher

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    Agree with el HP aqui.

    Lakers gave (Bynum + pick) & they got (howard) here. The best center in the NBA for a younger/slightly worse Center +.

    Orlando DID NOT GET. Fail for Orlando, but for the lakers, not so bad.
     
  20. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    They traded the #2 center for the #1 center.

    The trade doesn't happen without a huge asset like Bynum. Nothing would mean the Lakers still have that asset to use.

    Just so strange to say the Lakers got Howard for nothing.
     

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