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Where to put Von Wafer, when everyone is back.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jan 14, 2009.

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Where does Von fit in on a healthy Rocket's team?

  1. Starter - he has earned it

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    28.9%
  2. Bench - SG off bench

    484 vote(s)
    69.5%
  3. Out of rotation - stash him for next year, or emergencies

    11 vote(s)
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  1. DtJohnKimbell

    DtJohnKimbell Member

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    Brooks
    Wafer
    Artest
    Scola
    Yao

    bench
    Rafer
    tmac
    battier
    landry
    deke

    Im sorry but I dont care how a guy played last year or years before that I go with who is performing and quite frankly those are the guys

    Not to mention that is a pretty solid bench still, plus we dont wanna wear down tmac we know he is fragile and we have to play him like he is. Plus he works real well landry and him and yao dont belong on the court at the same time, tmac is a ball stopper and will always be one no matter how bad he is shooting
     
  2. Classic

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    Banish McGrady at this point and run with:

    Alston
    Wafer
    Ron
    Scola
    Yao

    Bench:
    Brooks
    Landry
    Battier

    deep:
    Barry
    Hayes
    Deke

    I honestly think at this point, without McGrady we could have a more cohesive team and develop better chemistry within Adelman's offense. As a big fan of McGrady, I put the Rockets first when I say...ISO him. Or McGrady can come back healthy but I'm going to assume he won't at this point.
     
  3. DtJohnKimbell

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    I completely agree with you, thats why i put him on the bench in my rotation that way he doesnt have the excuse that he is tired or worn out
     
  4. leebigez

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    Asking what I would do vs what rick would is different.

    Brooks,Wafer,Tracy,Landry,Yao starts.

    Brooks-30mins
    Wafer-30mins
    Tracy-30mins
    Landry-24mins
    Yao-31mins

    Alston-18
    Artest-30
    Scola-24
    Deke-17

    Shane,barry,chuck situational.

    What I think will happen is Battier will continue to be the chuck hayes of wing players. Rafer will probably get 17 mins of shane and barry's time.
     
  5. blender

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    Wow you're right. It's going to be tough finding enough minutes for both Wafer and Barry. Even sneaking Barry into the PG spot for a few minutes won't help much.
     
  6. Geaux Rockets

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    Id keep him coming off the bench soley because Id prefer to have either Battier or Artest out there at all times for defensive purposes. Defense still needs to be our identity and having one of those two hassle the best opposing swingman all night is fun. But obviously the kid's gotta keep getting a ton of PT so Id use him as Tracy's primary backup while reducing Tracy's minutes and then also let Wafer be the primary 2-guard when we go small and play Artest or Battier at the 4.

    Although, Im tempted to say that he earned a permanent starting spot simply by finally being the guy to bump Luther Head out of the rotation. Cheers to you Von!
     
  7. 1onewonjuan

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    wafer has to be our backup 2 guard after that laker game. barry could barely do half of wat wafer did in LA. he should be starting till tmac gets back too.

    i wouldnt rely on him to be our starting guard for next season. hes not good enough to be a starter yet, or he hasn't proved he's starter material unless he can put a string of games like he did vs LA. the game he had did look promising that he can be pretty daam good. and when tmac gets back he should start and let tmac work his way slowly back into the game, w/ wafer filling in for his minutes.
     
  8. mozart123

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    I gotta believe with the ****ty play of Rafer Alston, he's headed to the bench this season....

    But in the meantime, when all starters are back

    Yao
    T-mac
    Battier
    Rafer (please limit his minutes)
    Scola

    Bench Players
    Artest
    Landry
    Wafer
    Brooks

    Deep team, but some really bad pieces offensively (aka Alston/Battier)
     
  9. ThaShark316_28

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    The cookie playin this well i think changes everything...come this april, this bench is gonna break alot of hearts across the western conference.
     
  10. crash5179

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    If Wafer continues to play the way he is playing then he stays as the starter.

    To me it is much much more of not just how he is playing individually but how much better the offense is as a whole with Wafer in the starting line up and TMac anywhere else. Great ball movement, better perimeter shooting and Wafer actually attacks the basket better than TMac at this point in their respective careers.

    TMac would have to earn his starting roll back when he is healthy so he would most definitely not be in my starting line up.

    Starters
    Brooks
    Wafer
    Battier
    Scola
    Yao

    Rest of Rotation
    Arterst
    Landry
    Barry
    Rafer
    TMac

    That's a 10 man rotation with Deke and Chuck coming in for situational minutes. Luther Head might as well watch the game at home.

    Barry has been shooting the ball so well that I keep giving him minutes. Ron is clearly our best defender and a good offensive player so he looses no minutes. Landry is of course our most important front court bench player.
     
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  11. arif1127

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    I voted to put wafer on the bench, but upon further review, the amount of energy wafer brings to the starting lineup can't be duplicated by either battier or tmac. we've seen it so far, he goes to the basket with reckless abandon and its amazing to see. a healthy tmac doesn't bring it like he has been, and battier as smart of a player as he is, just doesn't have the same kind of athleticism.

    I'd hate to lose wafer's energy by putting it on the bench then watching the same starting lineup that has notoriously come out and laid an egg in the first quarter continue to do it.

    I've changed my mind.

    Starters:

    Yao
    Scola
    Tmac
    Wafer
    Rafer

    Bench:

    Artest
    AB
    Battier
    Landry

    -make sure Wafer and Tmac (we know wafer will) play their arses off to start the game and let them know, we have enough depth, make sure you push the other teams starters as hard as possible to start the game b/c our depth is what will allow us to overwhelm other teams.
     
  12. IamKhan

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    I would start Brooks/Wafer/Artest/Landry/Yao

    and try to develop this unit together for next 5 years.

    our second unit would be alston/tmac/battier/scola/deke, the starting 5 of last season after Yao was down.
     
  13. Tsquare

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    I say he should keep his starting job too.

    Starting lineup:
    Alston
    Wafer
    McShady
    Scola
    Ming

    Bench:
    Brooks
    Artest/Barry
    Battier
    Landry
     
  14. BruceHR

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    Our starters:
    AB
    Wafer
    Artest
    Scola
    Yao

    Benches:
    tmac
    Battier
    Landry
    Brent Barry
    Hayes
    Mutombo

    While Alston please leave Houston, Morey please trade him for somebody.
     
  15. larsv8

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    Its really a shame we have so many solid shooting guards and no good point guards.
     
  16. davidxhz

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    i agree with this lineup. I think Chuck or Deke can be the centre for the second unit. Chuck defends well, especially against guys who rely on skill but not his athletic ability, like Gasol. Deke is a better blocker and rebounder.

     
  17. JCDenton

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    stash him so we can sign him to a cheap 3 year deal.
     
  18. Rollazn

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    PG - Rafer
    SG - Shane
    SF - TMAC
    PF - Scola
    C - Yao

    Bench:

    PG - Aaron
    SG - Wafer
    SF - Ron
    PF - Landry
    C - Hayes/Deke depending on situations

    Barry will get minutes sometimes if wafer/aaron is playing bad.
     
  19. xiki

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    Decent question. Now, mine - can VW drive the team...from the 1?

    Next question: WHEN McG goes ta-ta what 'type' of player and what position player (or players) come to the Toy Shop?
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I don't think he has the handles to do that...he is a pure scorer....but not a great dribbler.....as far as I can tell.

    He is quick enough to guard the other team's PGs....he could bother CP3 and Dwill types with his length and quickness on D.....


    DD
     

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