Where is the world outrage at how U.S. POWs are treated?

The Wilt Chamberlain Syndrome.

 

Why in the hell would U.S. citizens protest Saddam. He's going to listen to us. This is a stupid argument.

 

Okay, how a bout <b>decry</b> then?

 

We're America, we're supposed to be better.

I, personally, am sickened, but not surprised at the treatment of our POWs.

I've never understood the argument of "why aren't the protesters protesting Saddam". Do you really not know the answer to that? Are you simply trying to paint anti-war protesters as Hussein sympathizers, when all common sense should tell you that they're not?

 

How many anti-Saddam signs have you seen at these protests? Isn't he one of the keys to peace for that nation? If I were against the war, I'd make damn sure that my position was known to be pro-US and throw a little denouncement of Saddam in there... or do they not feel that way?

 

I had dinner with my buddy, who is a Gulf War vet, and he said that the Iraqis did a lot of raping of POWs during the last war. Considering that nothing is sacred or private in the press anymore, I figure if something like that happened to Jessica Lynch, the press will unfortunately release it, and then there will be plenty of outrage.

Rape is a hard pill for even the most hardcore peaceniks to swallow.....I would hope.


Still, the fact that they were slapping her around while she was on a hospital bed is really messed up.

 

Again, what's the point? Do you think that if every anti-war protester was to protest Saddam, he's suddenly have a change of heart and step down, or completely reveal where all his WMD are? I seriously doubt it.

We all know how bad Saddam is, and the vast majority of us want him gone, whether through forceful means (which, obviously, is what we're doing), or through a more peaceful solution. You can talk all day about how naive that position is, and that's fine. But there's no reason to criticize these people for not decrying or protesting Saddam...there's really no need, and it'd be a waste of time.

I'm not even close to saying that. All I'm saying is that no one's surprised (or they shouldn't be surprised) by how Saddam's treating the POWs. Of course I think he should abide by the Geneva Convention, I'm just not surprised that he hasn't.

 

It's probably a combination of the fact that,contrary to the views of most war supporters, most people against this war are not underthe illusion that SH is Santa Claus, the fact that severe underdogs in military actions have historically not abided by the rules, especially in defense of their own country ( see VietNam, US Revolution, etc. ) and the fact that the vast majority of the world thinks that this is entirely the US' ugly baby,ie we made this war happen against the will of the world, so theyhave little symapthy for the negatives which stem from our actions...I personally don't think that the latter is cause enough to abandon our soldiers to inhumane treatment because of the mistakes of our administration...they are merely doing their job, following orders... if that is what is happening. In that case I am outraged, but my outrage is spread thin with all of the actions I am objecting to since we decided to go this way.

I disagree re: evidence of executions, I haven't seen it. Can you post links, please, otr tell me what I've missed? I have been very busy the past few days, and haven't had much time to watch the news...

 

I guess you missed the thread that was posted on here that had a link to Al Jazeera's website which had pictures of soldiers with bullet holes in their forehead (several of them). Ill try to find the link and post a followup for you since you missed it.

Also Macbeth, you really seem to insinuate that our soldiers, as you would put it, are just there cause "they are merely doing their job, following orders" (you have said this several times). Do you really feel that the majority of the soldiers dont want to be there? That they dont believe in the reasons they are there? That they only reason they are fighting is because they are told to do so? Do you not think that maybe there are there because they want to be there? Do you not think that maybe there are there because they believe in fighting for their country?

Just curious ...................

 

Cause protesters are trying to point out what they believe are good arguments against forceful action against Iraq to a government that's much more level-headed and willing to listen to other arguments. I believe that Bush would be more likely to take notice of a huge demonstration in his backyard than Saddam would be to take notice of one 5,000 miles away, especially when the latter couldn't even handle dissent in his own country.

You're not comparing our government to Saddam's are you? (just kidding about that last part, but see how easily that it can be turned around and how infuriating it is to hear?)

 

We're America, we're supposed to be better.

Guantanamo Bay!!! Now that's how it is supposed to be done!

 

I also believe that had the vast majority of Americans marched in protest of a possible war with Iraq, Bush would've thought long and hard about taking a different course of action. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean that people shouldn't have tried.

 

Check this out:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=US&cat=US_Armed_Forces

Apparently, some of the information that had come out about Jessica Lynch was untrue.

Imagine that.

 

Most of the articles I've seen indicated that she was neither shot nor stabbed, but suffered 2 broken legs. I don't see this link as some sort of revelation.