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Where is the Magic?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by leebigez, Jun 26, 2009.

  1. jevon3012

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    Morey turns nothing into 3 good underrated prospects and you're complaining?
     
  2. leebigez

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    Durvasa, I know there is more of the offseason left, but a team like the spurs don't have to do squat. Since players will view the cavs,spurs,lakers,and magic as teams capable of winning a title, u will see quality vets taking less to play with those teams. Players around the league view who can win a title and act accordingly by signing for less. That's why u never see a vet bought out then cut go to the rox. Watch who goes to those above mentioned team at a discount.
     
  3. RV6

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    if you're making bets with almost 3 months still left in the season as to who will win what, then you have problems that need to be sorted out.......chill out, it's still early, the whole talk about being a predator wasn't even aimed at the draft, but the FA market and trading players on teams already, so it's not like the opportunity has passed us up. i'm as pissed as you are about the one-sided deals the spurs and magic got, but you need the perfect "trash" offer to get guys like that sometime. Take the jersey deal for example. NJ wanted a promising young prospect, so tmac for VC would never have worked, we only had brooks and landry to offer. They dont need brooks, and maybe they dont like landry? What else can we do? It takes two to tango, you can't just force someone into a trade. They happened to like Lee and felt they could use a promising sg and still got their expiring contracts, it's what they wanted and they got it, even if it seems crazy to the rest of us.
     
  4. Fyreball

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    The Spurs got Jefferson for bench players with expiring contracts because the Spurs HAD BENCH PLAYERS WITH EXPIRING CONTRACTS. The Bucks were looking for players they could buy out, or flip in a trade immediately......not someone like T-Mac who they'd have to hang onto for the entire season. Some of you knee-jerkers are really ticking me off now.....it's one thing to complain about the way a particular player is performing, it's quite another to expect a HUGE blockbuster to happen when you'd have to mortgage your future in order to make it work. Getting 3 players to develop when you had ZERO picks to begin with is a LUXURY, not an expectation.
     
  5. leebigez

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    Von and White are better prospects and play the same position.
     
  6. DCkid

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    This.

    However, I would totally agree with everything in the OP if nothing has changed come October.
     
  7. RV6

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    and there's no way Jermaine taylor will be stuck in the NBDL, he's already ahead of white, i'm not sure where you get white is a better player...taylor may even end up being better than wafer this year....
     
  8. Blake

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    The draft class sucked. Chill out. There is a lot of time to make a move.
     
  9. QdoubleA

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    You're like a spoiled little kid, Morey gives us gold every year and before he has a chance to work you start b!tiching. Even if he does'nt land some superstar over the summer we still have a great team and have gotten better every year. You suck, no soup for you.
     
  10. RV6

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    it's the same crap like when Gay was traded, complaints, but no do-able scenarios are given, it's like Morey can just hold a gun to their heads and demand they accept what we offer...just because a deal is made doesn't mean all the other teams in the league could have pulled off a similar deal, even if its one sided...
     
  11. rocketsmetalspd

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    Let's see next week July 1st, free agent signings can be done and by July 8th I believe Morey should be done with getting the players that will be counted; to be ready to contribute to the upcoming season. Morey will get it done.
     
  12. leebigez

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    All u have to do is get to 25% of a salary, its not that hard. U know skiles and davidson are defensive minded people. Cook,Shane, and Lowry/barry/hayes combo couldve probably gotten jefferson and elson. I mentioned lowry cause sessions is a fa. Shane is a defensive guy to help cover for redd who is terrible on defense and cook is a 3.5m expiring.
     
  13. Cannonball

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    Apparently, if any trade gets made not involving the Rockets, it's Morey's fault we weren't involved. He was probably sitting at home eating Cheetos and watching p*rn when those trades got done. That's why we missed out. We didn't get any high draft picks last night because he really wanted to see Transformers 2 and didn't get back to the war room until the 2nd round. It's all Morey's fault. Yeah, other teams may not have been willing to take what we were offering, but Morey should have used his Jedi mind tricks to convince them that the Rockets are the only potential trade partner in the NBA.


    :rolleyes:
     
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  14. DaDakota

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    Me too....

    Color me underwhelmed so far, but it is a long offseason.

    DD
     
  15. leebigez

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    Don't bring gay into this. Its still a ripple effect for giving away our lotto pick. U draft budinger, yet trade the 8th. U draft dorsey, yet pass on jordan. Even if taylor is ahead of white, which I doubt, is either helping u beat the spurs or lakers this yr?
     
  16. Marsarinian

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    Lee, I'm booking this. Somehow I just know that in a couple months' time, you'll regret saying this. Like all the Battier hate crap that you spewed before he stepped up and led us in the playoffs with his tenacity and defense.
     
  17. GATER

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    Your placing too much emphasis on "it's only the day after the draft". The draft didn't have anything to do with the actions taken by the Cavs, Magic and Spurs to close their gap to the Lakers.

    What has happened is that CLE, ORL & SAS have to a solid extent depleted the pool of teams wishing to decrease payroll. That's not a function of the draft...that's a function of knowing your shortcomings and addressing them efficiently. And when you've got potential health issues with BOTH Grady and Yao, getting into this supposed "plunder mode" shouldn't mean waiting until pre-season.

    IOW and IMHO, there are light years between being bold and being overly cautious. In spite of the verbiage, I see a huge dose of caution being excercised.

    Not to mention, another door will close when the Warriors swope in and nab Amare on July 8. I suppose the story will then be "it's only the first day of FA signings".
     
  18. durvasa

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    That trade looks pretty decent to me. Jefferson is a nice transition player to pair with Brooks and he doesn't need to dominate the ball to score points, while Elson, though not ideal, adds some size front court. We still have some big chips in Tracy McGrady, Aaron Brooks, Luis Scola, and Carl Landry to perhaps add another star player.

    I'd probably be ok with that trade, though I'd be concerned about us being only 1-deep at PG.
     
  19. The Cat

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    This is quite possibly the dumbest logic I've ever heard. So even if you think you can upgrade your team, unless you think it can/will put you ahead of the Spurs and Lakers, you shouldn't do it? :confused:

    The difference in the 2008-09 Rockets and their prior versions that couldn't get out of the first round wasn't the big splashes you keep referencing. It was through incremental upgrades to the supporting cast, replacing the Bobby Jacksons, Ryan Bowens and Scott Padgetts of the world with role players like Kyle Lowry, Von Wafer, and Carl Landry, just to name a few. If you can upgrade your team at minimal to no cost, you do it gladly and you thank your owner for allowing you to do it. To b**** about it is just absurd.

    As for the rest of it, it's June 26. Most deals don't even start to get done until July. To say you're premature would be an understatement.
     
  20. kpsta

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    The Spurs also got their asses kicked by Dallas in the playoffs last year... and I'm not sure that that was all because they were missing Manu's contributions either. Why are they suddenly a lock to win the Southwest? And what does winning the Southwest mean anyway in the grand scheme of things? A broken down, injury-ridden Rockets team lasted longer in this season's playoffs than either the Southwest Division Champ or the team that beat them in the first round. We lost to the eventual NBA Champs in a very tough series... and we're still the best team in Texas.
     

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