You gotta love the SF3 haters and the McGrady haters. Its funny how everyone is saying steve is done he cant run and offense blah blah blah. What people don't realize is the Steve we had in the past was young. What don't some of the haters understand that he is older. Last season we he got his little bit of shine i did not see him dribble the shot clock out just to take a bad shot. He ran the offense passed the ball and did everything right. I believe he had one bad game and i think that was against the hawks. You haters need to stop hating on Steve. If yall are truly rockets fans then yall should root for whoever is on the team. Steve finally practiced and thats a good sign. The season is still young and anything can happen.
There is no need to rush him because he's not beating out any of the players ahead of him. Lets compare SF3's effective limited time last year to how Brooks is currently playing. SF3 played 10 games last year and none this year. Brooks has played 10 of 11 this year. Advantage Brooks Mins Per Game SF3 -- 20 AB0 -- 22.8 Advantage Brooks FG % SF3 -- 33.3% AB0 -- 43.5% Advantage Brooks FreeThrow % SF3 -- 56.5% AB0 -- 90% Advantage Brooks 3point % SF3 -- 23.5% AB0 -- 40.6% Advantage Brooks Rebounds per game SF3 -- 2.3 AB0 -- 2.6 Advantage Brooks Assists per game SF3 -- 3 AB0 -- 2.4 Advantage Francis Steals per game SF3 -- .9 AB0 -- .3 Advantage Francis Points per game SF3 -- 5.5 AB0 -- 11.10 Advantage Brooks I'm not reaching at all... SF3 is not beating out Brooks for playing time regardless of his health. I hope Steve can come back and contribute but I'm not counting on it. Brooks is the future. Embrace it and enjoy it.
i refuse to address the franchise as SF3.. haters keep doubting stevie. just dont jump on the bandwagon when hes doing good
good comparison but the coach won't look at it when he chooses who is going to play, he will look at the match up and the abilities of his players. anyway, SF has no place in Adelman's team.
yea dont get me wrong brooks scores a lot and thats awesome but he is undersized and gives up more points on the other end. im not saying Francis should play over brooks but when he is ready i think he should be given a chance at least
Stevie is done. He doesn't have a place on this team. That being said, I'll be the first to eat crow should he prove me wrong.
The Guy that will be the odd man out is alston you will see at some point a brooks and francis Combo. Steve is a combo guard not a point. Rick will be able to use him at some point.
If Steve comes back with just a fraction of the talent he had before on this team all haters will eating their words. This guy can ball and yes you may lose a few steps with age but talent doesn't get lost over night.
It's not overnight change. How long has he been injured? He relied heavily on his athleticism, if it's lost than he is done.
You're right on one account... He didn't lose his talent over night. He lost it over the past 7 Years. Notice the trend in number of games played and points per game Year Team Games PPG 02-03 HOU 81 21.0 03-04 HOU 79 16.6 04-05 ORL 78 21.3 05-06 ORL 46 16.2 05-06 NYK 24 10.8 06-07 NYK 44 11.3 07-08 HOU 10 5.5 Get this straight... I'm not a hater but I'm no longer a Francis appologist. Dude is done until he comes in and proves me wrong.
LMFAO Why are you comparing something that happened last year to this year. Plus why are you comparing an injured Steve Francis to a healthy Aaron Brooks. LOL makes no sense. Your comparing last years stats from Steve to this years stats for Aaron your so mean lol
You may not be a hater but you sure acting like one. Plus just because Steve hasnt put up monster numbers doesnt mean he is declining. Have you ever took the time and think maybe his numbers are down because other people are stepping up. Injuries happen. No i dont expect the same Steve the one that was jumping and dunking on everyone but I do expect a Steve that will contribute and help. Give the man a chance he finally went through practice now lets see what happens next practice and so on. Battier and Francis can help this team.
He only played 10 games due to a major injury last year (his first I may add) which is why his numbers look so terrible. Just 2 years ago he was averaging 11/4/3 in that mess of a situation in New York alongside Marbury. I am not a SOF or some Franchise fan boy but I do believe and have faith that he could contribute at the very least 8/3/3 but more so valuable minutes to relieve the pg position as well as another defender on the opposing pg. He's a far cry from what he used to be but let's see what he has left to contribute. Everybody had faith and hope for Bob Sura to come back and contribute after his injury. Yet some of the haters not only don't believe but wouldn't even give Stevie the opportunity if it were up to them. We're talking about Bob Sura part II both in terms of situation and potential contributions. The Stevie that will be a part of this team again will not be the dribble-dribble-dribble, flashy, iso, alley-oop dunking, Troy Hudson ankle breaking, Gary Payton backboard lay-up pinning, Jahidi White T-bagging, Cuttino Mobley piggy back giving Franchise anymore for better or worse but he will be a tough nitty gritty player with heart and determination like the Bob Sura that we came to love. SF3... You either love him... you still do... or YOU WILL before it's all said and done. WE WANT STEVE!!!!!!!!
I hope steve gets 100% healthy. that way we can get max value when we trade him. listen, I don't see how adding ANOTHER ballstopper...at the damn point guard spot(!)...is beneficial to this team. I think most of the francis fans are ignoring facts. VoodooPope already pulled out multiple stats showing steve's ineptitude. what makes any of you think francis will run the O or play D better than rafer or score/drive better than brooks (one of the fastest players in the L and a better shooter than steve has ever been)?
FACT- Mike James, Jon Barry, Bob Sura, (David Wesley pg/sg) PG by comittee did an admirable job in 04-05. FACT- Last year in the series agaisnt the Jazz when Alston was injured... we looked lost and Aaron Brooks was forced into baptism by fire. FACT- We are thin at PG regardless of the addition of Barry. FACT- The more minutes we rely upon Alston the worse the team is.
Thats the full 05-06 for a combined 70 games. It was mid 06-07 when he first lost significant time to injury. But it still goes with the trend of lessening games and scoring each passing year... Also he was in a reduced role and played a 1/4 less minutes in NY, thats more why his scoring got worse. His per 36 minute numbers for the NY tenure are around similar to his 05-06 Orlando numbers. But a year and a half makes a lot of difference. The current Francis is a long long shot, probably close to the scrap heap for good. Still, there's nothing at all wrong being hopeful about a player returning. So what if he doesnt come back? There's nothing to lose having optimism here, it doesnt make you a "Stevie nut rider"
well in games like today, i rather see SF3 playing than rafer. Yeah, rafer did a pretty good job today, but everytime he goes in the lane something bad happen, he got stripped/block/miss the shot which leads to a defensive rebound. Sometimes you just wish SF3 is there shouting at everyone, getting everyone to dig their hills in and play basketball. Landry shooting the 15ft jumper and wafer/barry/artest camping at the 3p line.... defensively, no help defense on terry, lack of communication. And artest is the one hustling for rebounds, not landry.
Brooks a better shooter than Steve has ever seen? Mind you that Brooks last year vs. the Jazz hit open clunker after clunker as if he was Luther Head and was burned constantly by Deron Williams in the series. I'm not hating on Brooks and I love that he's stepped up big time this season but he's still green, he's undersized and is a bench spark at best. And Alston's Playmaking skills are way too overrated. He's a good playmaker but Steve can be just as good as Alston at playmaking. He has a better career assist per game and would actually dish more now since he's not Mr. break ankles dunk-a-thon anymore and is more of a team player. The career TO's comparing Alston (1.77) to Francis (2.00) is not really a big difference. Losing athleticism will cause people to play smarter, and shoot better since they aren't able to just get the easy dunk or layup. I think Francis would excell. I'm just saying that Francis could do as good a job if not better in Alston's role as playmaker PLUS finish stronger at the basket. I don't see Alston getting a lot of free throws a game which Francis can do. He doesn't even need to put up a shot attempt and he'll get heck 10-15 points at the line. Steve knows where to get his points if he's off, whereas Alston passes up shots and becomes invisible if he's off.
