A high level prospect getting no playing time on lottery teams? I can't seem to recall any. What are some examples?
The Knicks aren't a lottery team, they gave their draft pick to the Jazz. Ergo, there is no incentive to them for developing Jordan (who as Bima noted needed to be moved to clear capspace) at the expense of losing games and giving the Jazz a high draft pick. Aside from that,D'Antoni prefers short rotations and has a very, very short leash on rookies. Considering David and Al Harrington are in front of him in the rotation it doesn't take a genius to see a non-star rookie like Hill will stay glued to the bench. In our case though RA doesn't like giving PT to rookies as well. Chase put up hall of fame numbers in the preseason and he only got significant PT a dozen or so games after the season started. I wouldn't be surprised if Jeffries got more PT than Hill at this season.
I just want to say I agree with everything in the above paragraph. Except I don't see how it has any bearing to my question. Bimathug's position is that by playing Hill, his value may lower. My thought is that Hill's value can't possibly be any lower than he is at right now, if the Rockets refuse to play him either. knote32 then said that it's possible for players taken in the lottery to not play in their rookie year, but still go on to become great players. So I asked for examples. Because I don't seem to recall any myself. Adelman on rookies... Lottery: Joe Smith started 82 games and averaged 34mpg. Todd Fuller played 75 games and average 14mpg. His last 3 years in Sacramento, all PLAYOFF TEAMS Franciso Garcia played 67 games and average 19mpg Kevin Martin played 45 games and averaged 10mpg Darius Songaila played 73 games and averaged 13mpg So no, I don't see how Adelman refuse to play rookies. I'm not saying I expect Jordan Hill to play 30 minutes. But if the Rockets don't at least give him token "9th man in rotation" role, it'll be pretty damning to his trade value in the offseason.
Hill is probably not showing the smarts and the skills to play in the game. Budinger came in the season ready, showing terrific IQ and skills in his limited playing time. That earned him significant number of minutes. This is the second half of the season, I don't think RA is interested in inserting a rookie who hasn't proven himself yet in the lineup.
Well he had no shot to play last night, Adelman REALLY wanted to win that game and his rotation was extra short last night. It's only been 4 games, I think we'll give him a shot eventually.
Adelman wants to win every game. I don't think he plays anything but garbage minutes until the Rox are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
He looks a little lost, which is to be expected.The way DA is playing, he only needs to learn the offense before he gets playing time.
Yeah, I hope they send him to Rio Grande. Could be a good opportunity given the fact they run the same system there.
I said Dorsey is better than Hill and got flamed and my opinion of Hill hasn't changed. And I am not just gong by tonight. He is the same player he was in college. In college he was bigger and quicker than most of his competition. In the NBA he is average a best. Neither Hill or Armstrong have a big future in the league. Anderson plays better D than hill or at least he hustles more.
they really need to send the kid down. it's kind of pointless to have him here if he isn't going to get consistent pt.
This is like saying dogcrap is better than horsecrap. When you posted that, I thought I had missed something Dorsey had been doing for the Kings recently. I looked at his game logs and he's done a lot of nothing for them. I'm not saying ultimately you won't be correct, but what exactly has happened that has made your statement that Dorsey is better than Hill fact now?
This. It would do well to boost Hill's confidence as well, assuming he does well. I mean, wasn't Taylor average 25+ in the D-League? I imagine Hill could easily get 18/10.
I agree now. Better for the guy then sitting on the bench watching Andersen being bullied out there and not doing anything.
Actually, Dorsey played OK when he was given a meaningful role in the last two games. His energy and hustle fueled the comeback attempt in the second half of the Detroit loss. In their win vs. Utah, he was in foul trouble all game while guarding Boozer, but he did contribute some rebounds in the first half. He could stay a part of their rotation if he keeps this up. Hill, on the other hand, looked pretty unimpressive tonight in garbage time. But as another poster said, maybe it's because he's still unfamiliar with the Houston system.
He looks like he needs more playing time and practice in the system to get comfortable, but a couple of his moves looked very Scola-like except with more explosiveness (but obviously not the same shooter's touch yet). I would not mind seeing Hill out there 20 minutes a game from here on out, alongside Budinger... let him learn on the fly.
No, it is a cleverly disguised reference to chemical elements: carbon transforms into diamonds in about a million years (which is approximately the same amount of time it would take to transform this guy into a bonafide NBA player). So in response to the scientifically challenged: There was nothing racist at all in that post.
No matter how you choose to look at it: when all is said and done, whether it comes from dogs or horses, crap is, well, crap.
