Where does Yao rank amongst these centers?

once again. yao isnt finished yet. and i think he will win at least one nba championship. yao as of now doesnt have the numbers ewing has, but i still think its more likely yao will win a championship. something ewing never accomplished.

and ppl talk about what he did to olajuwon in the 1994 series? i think most of it was mental. olajuwon trying to shake the monkey off his back. from UH vs. Georgetown to the unfortunate 1986 Rox/Celts finals to Choke City and the Houston curse.
What did Hakeem do to Robinson and Shaq the next year? total domination. They had better numbers than Ewing and it isnt a stretch to say they dominated Ewing. BUT since ewing apparently held his own with Hakeem.. does that mean he should be ranked higher than Robinson and Shaq too?

as far as being a homer. Hakeem was a beast but he had his ups and downs too. and i think Yao's length and height would give him problems on some occassions. insert Yao into Ewings place and I think Yao could go 7 games in that series against houston too. you guys act like ewing was the sole reason the knicks were successful. as if oakley, starks, doc rivers, mason, and the rebounding/defensive beast that was the knicks back then had nothing to do with their success.

flame on.

 

I will flame away. The Knicks were a good team because of their defense, and Ewing was a great defender. Hakeem still ate him up. Yao doesn't have the foot speeed to stay in front of Carlos Boozer...yet you think he could have bothered Hakeem enough to make the Rockets go 7 games?

Yao does not defend athletes well, at least not the ones whose offensive games aren't confined to the paint (ala Howard). Athletes who can score inside and out give him fits.

 

Turrible. Just Turrible. You knucklehead Yao fans have no idea what dream was capable of.

Dream would average 40pts-20reb-7blks-5ast-5stl on Yao. Yao would be lucky to average 10 points on Dream.

 

When you discuss Olajuwon being just as GOOD as Jordan (like I do because I am talking player not team), thats how freaking UNGODLY Olajuwon was.

The day Yao goes near that universe I will be uber-impressed.

And you guys underrate Ewing so much is not even funny. Ewing was a DOMINANT, DOMINANT player. All-NBA caliber for like 12 years! Putting Yao in that sentence is r****ded.

I want Yao to succeed. But after two years ago when he averaged 25 per game, I thought it was possible that we got lucky again with another great, great center.

Not only is this not the case. I am starting to think Yao and that foot injury last year sealed his fate. I think 19/9/2 is what Yao will be.

And STILL, we can win a championship with that type of player if we just give him the ball to make sure he gets his 19-20, if Yao DEMANDS the ball in crunch time to get his 19-20, and if Yao stops going every summer to play in China instead of resting.

 

Every center mentioned would kill a team trying to front them. You couldn't get away with that strategy. Also, he's too easily pushed around by scrubs like Pryzbilla and the likes. Hasn't delivered a hard foul on anyone since arriving in the leauge. Everyone mentioned on the list has knocked out someone trying to drive or dunk on them. Also, everyone on the list if I'm not mistaken has gotten out of the first round regardless of the issues.

However, Yao's skilled shooting puts him over the top when you look at Wes Unseld and Dave Cowens. The Big Liability can flat out shoot the rock.

 

Wow...did you really just say that? Are you serious? You can't be. Is this still April fools?

 

way off.

 

yao used to average around 25 ppg against almost prime shaq.....and always gotten the best of him. Hakeem might actually have a problem scoring against yao cause of his high.

 

This is actually FUNNY!

 

Yao plays traditional bigs well...i.e. the ones who can't really score outside of the paint. And even then, it wasn't like Shaq couldn't score on him (did you not just watch the last Suns game?). Yao struggles with mobile bigs that can move and shoot...i.e. the things that made Hakeem and Robinson freaks. If you can't stop Carlos Boozer from scoring on you...then please don't say you can stop Hakeem.

 

I used one of durvasa's tool in his sig. People that are trying to put Yao in the same breath as ewing or even zo needs to go look at their 1st 7 yrs vs yao 1st 7 years. In fact, yao's 1st 7 years look like Daughtery 1st 7 yr minus the high asst and more blks for yao.

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2002-03 22 HOU NBA 82 72 29.1 4.9 9.8 .498 0.0 0.0 .500 3.7 4.5 .811 2.4 5.8 8.2 1.7 0.4 1.8 2.1 2.8 13.5
2003-04 23 HOU NBA 82 82 32.8 6.5 12.5 .522 0.0 0.0 .000 4.4 5.4 .809 2.4 6.6 9.0 1.5 0.3 1.9 2.5 3.3 17.5
2004-05 24 HOU NBA 80 80 30.6 6.7 12.2 .552 0.0 0.0 4.9 6.2 .783 2.6 5.8 8.4 0.8 0.4 2.0 2.5 3.7 18.3
2005-06 25 HOU NBA 57 57 34.2 8.2 15.8 .519 0.0 0.0 .000 5.9 6.9 .853 2.6 7.6 10.2 1.5 0.5 1.6 2.6 3.4 22.3
2006-07 26 HOU NBA 48 48 33.8 8.8 17.1 .516 0.0 0.0 .000 7.4 8.6 .862 2.1 7.3 9.4 2.0 0.4 2.0 3.5 3.3 25.0
2007-08 27 HOU NBA 55 55 37.2 7.9 15.5 .507 0.0 0.0 .000 6.3 7.4 .850 3.1 7.7 10.8 2.3 0.5 2.0 3.3 3.1 22.0
2008-09 28 HOU NBA 73 73 33.6 7.2 13.3 .546 0.0 0.0 1.000 5.1 5.9 .864 2.7 7.2 9.9 1.8 0.4 2.0 3.1 3.3 19.6
Career NBA 477 467 32.7 7.0 13.3 .524 0.0 0.0 .200 5.2 6.2 .832 2.6 6.7 9.3 1.6 0.4 1.9 2.7 3.3 19.1
Thats Yao
Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1985-86 23 NYK NBA 50 50 35.4 7.7 16.3 .474 0.0 0.1 .000 4.5 6.1 .739 2.5 6.5 9.0 2.0 1.1 2.1 3.4 3.8 20.0
1986-87 24 NYK NBA 63 63 35.0 8.4 16.7 .503 0.0 0.1 .000 4.7 6.6 .713 2.5 6.3 8.8 1.7 1.4 2.3 3.6 3.9 21.5
1987-88 25 NYK NBA 82 82 31.0 8.0 14.4 .555 0.0 0.0 .000 4.2 5.8 .716 3.0 5.3 8.2 1.5 1.3 3.0 3.5 4.0 20.2
1988-89 26 NYK NBA 80 80 36.2 9.1 16.0 .567 0.0 0.1 .000 4.5 6.1 .746 2.7 6.6 9.3 2.4 1.5 3.5 3.3 3.9 22.7
1989-90 27 NYK NBA 82 82 38.6 11.2 20.4 .551 0.0 0.0 .250 6.1 7.9 .775 2.9 8.0 10.9 2.2 1.0 4.0 3.4 4.0 28.6
1990-91 28 NYK NBA 81 81 38.3 10.4 20.3 .514 0.0 0.1 .000 5.7 7.7 .745 2.4 8.8 11.2 3.0 1.0 3.2 3.6 3.5 26.6
1991-92 29 NYK NBA 82 82 38.4 9.7 18.6 .522 0.0 0.1 .167 4.6 6.2 .738 2.8 8.5 11.2 1.9 1.1 3.0 2.5 3.4 24.0

Thats ewing

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1992-93 22 CHH NBA 78 78 33.9 7.3 14.3 .511 0.0 0.0 .000 6.3 8.1 .781 3.4 6.9 10.3 1.0 0.3 3.5 3.0 3.7 21.0
1993-94 23 CHH NBA 60 59 33.6 7.1 14.1 .505 0.0 0.0 .000 7.2 9.5 .762 3.0 7.2 10.2 1.4 0.5 3.1 3.3 3.5 21.5
1994-95 24 CHH NBA 77 77 38.2 7.4 14.3 .519 0.1 0.4 .324 6.4 8.4 .761 2.6 7.3 9.9 1.4 0.6 2.9 3.1 3.6 21.3
1995-96 25 MIA NBA 70 70 38.2 8.0 15.4 .523 0.1 0.4 .300 7.0 10.2 .685 3.1 7.3 10.4 2.3 1.0 2.7 3.7 3.5 23.2
1996-97 26 MIA NBA 66 65 35.2 7.2 13.4 .534 0.0 0.1 .111 5.5 8.6 .642 2.9 7.1 9.9 1.6 0.8 2.9 3.4 4.1 19.8
1997-98 27 MIA NBA 58 56 33.4 6.9 12.6 .551 0.0 0.0 5.3 8.0 .665 3.3 6.3 9.6 0.9 0.7 2.2 3.1 3.6 19.2
1998-99 28 MIA NBA 46 46 38.1 7.0 13.8 .511 0.0 0.0 .000 6.0 9.2 .652 3.6 7.4 11.0 1.6 0.7 3.9 3.0 3.5 20.1

Thats zo

Season Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1986-87 21 CLE NBA 80 80 33.7 6.1 11.3 .538 0.0 0.0 3.5 5.0 .696 1.9 6.2 8.1 3.8 0.6 0.8 3.1 3.1 15.7
1987-88 22 CLE NBA 79 78 37.4 7.0 13.7 .510 0.0 0.0 .000 4.8 6.7 .716 1.9 6.5 8.4 4.2 0.6 0.7 3.4 3.0 18.7
1988-89 23 CLE NBA 78 78 36.2 7.0 13.0 .538 0.0 0.0 .333 4.9 6.7 .737 2.1 7.1 9.2 3.7 0.8 0.5 2.9 2.2 18.9
1989-90 24 CLE NBA 41 40 35.1 6.0 12.4 .479 0.0 0.0 .000 4.9 7.0 .704 1.9 7.2 9.1 3.2 0.7 0.5 2.7 2.6 16.8
1990-91 25 CLE NBA 76 76 38.8 8.0 15.2 .524 0.0 0.0 .000 5.7 7.6 .751 2.3 8.6 10.9 3.3 1.0 0.6 2.8 2.5 21.6
1991-92 26 CLE NBA 73 73 36.2 7.9 13.8 .570 0.0 0.0 .000 5.7 7.3 .777 2.6 7.8 10.4 3.6 0.9 1.1 2.5 2.6 21.5
1992-93 27 CLE NBA 71 71 37.9 7.3 12.8 .571 0.0 0.0 .500 5.5 6.9 .795 2.3 7.9 10.2 4.4 0.7 0.8 2.1 2.5 20.2

Thats Brad. His stats and Yao stats are almost indentical in terms of shot attempts. He was a much better passer and yao blocked more shots. He only played 1 more year before his back went out, but in his era with Ewing,dream,robinson, and earlier with malone,parish, and guys like that, he was a good center.

 

if you want to talk stats....try letting yao get as much shot as these guy did...pretty sure he be within the 30ppg every year

 

I agree, what Yao lacks as a great center is postseason success.

Not just Yao but whole Rockets since 97.

 

You think Yao could squeez of 20 shots? Some of those were pick and pop. Some were running the floor in transition. Some were off offensive rebounds. So when you talk about him getting those amount of shots, its harder for him because he's limited in terms of where he can score. If he comes back and have confidence in his jumper, he can get more shots. Ewing,zo,Dream,an brad could all step out and knock down jumpers. They also would run in transition. Intersting though is Daughtery takes about the same number of shots and avg the same amount of point. Zo also takes the same amount of shots and avg the same amount of point whereas as ewing,robins and dream took more shots.

 

So YAO is a better shooter than Dream and others, right?

Yao is the best pure shooter over 7'2 probably.......as for winning alot of guys didn't win crap.....like Dream until 10 years later......so how are we judging great? By stats like ESPN or by rings? I'm sorry even if you get past the 1st round but you never win a ring you still suck according to the bbs.

 

The '85-86 Lakers beg to differ

 

Ring 93...... dude thats 7 years later.....DREAM APOLOGIST.

Dream couldn't carry his team to a victory by himself remember?

 

This is true. But he also arguably had worse teammates during that span, upped his playoff numbers and was still dominating individually on both sides of the court. It was a classic case of "he played great, but didn't have enough help". And please note, he played great in the postseason in his 2nd year.

Please point me to the great postseason Yao has had so far........

 

you are try to tell people the world is round, but they don't believe you.

 

he made his team better. he made kenny smith and maxwell and horry and elie etc have wide open shots

Dream could play the entire game and double overtime without getting tired and NOT EATING FOOD DURING RAMADAN.

Yao can't play a full game without getting winded.

Dream is highest standard for the Rockets, if you hate him, you are guaranteed to be Karl Malone's wife in the afterworld.