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Where do you draw the line - transgender

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by droxford, Feb 7, 2023.

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We all draw the line some where. Where do you draw the line?

  1. Society should refer to transgenders using their preferred pronouns

    19 vote(s)
    28.8%
  2. Definitions ("man", "woman", "gender", & "sex") should be changed/eliminated due to transgenders

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  3. It should be permissible for transgenders to share restroom/locker room with their identified gender

    14 vote(s)
    21.2%
  4. Transgenders should be able to participate in athletic & other competitions based on their identity

    6 vote(s)
    9.1%
  5. Transgenders should qualify for loans, grants, scholarships, & admissions based on their identity

    8 vote(s)
    12.1%
  6. Gender-specific organizations should be required to accept transgendrs based on their gender idntity

    7 vote(s)
    10.6%
  7. Historical medical records & birth certificats should be changed to only show transgenders' indntity

    4 vote(s)
    6.1%
  8. Transgenders <16 yrs should be able to hve sex-reassignmnt surgery/pubrty blockrs w/o parent consent

    2 vote(s)
    3.0%
  9. The U.S. government should provide finances for sex-reassigned surgeries and puberty-blocking drugs

    4 vote(s)
    6.1%
  10. None of the above

    45 vote(s)
    68.2%
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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Oh, so I misread no. 1.

    More nuance, then: Someone I know who I know is a biological female wants to be addressed with a male name and as a "he". I will do that, simply to be polite and accommodating. I wouldn't intentionally be a jerk about it.

    As @StupidMoniker says, that shouldn't be mandated/sanctioned though.

    Also, I don't think I could get myself to use they/them or some other complicated/made up stuff. Still just one person.
     
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    I am not sure where lines should be drawn or if lines should be drawn. A lot of these issues are complex and require a lot of thoughtfulness and nuance.

    But I do think it's time people start treating being transgender as a genetic disorder and not a social choice people make to get some kind of benefit. No wants to be transgender. History will look at how barbaric our time was in the treatment of this group.
     
  3. tinman

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    Dave Chappelle tells jokes about every community except one community of dudes got really angry at his jokes
    These dudes also hate JK Rowling
    A successful woman for just believing in women
    These dudes go into women’s sports and beat them while showing them who has big balls
    @AroundTheWorld @Commodore
     
  4. tinman

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    All these people can’t take jokes
    And didn’t even listen to the jokes

    Chappelle has bigger balls then all of them
     
  5. dobro1229

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    I really just don't give a sh$t. If you aren't hurting anyone it's none of my business. Your body your choice. Personal freedom.
     
  6. tinman

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    Yes it’s barbaric watching dudes beat the crap out of girls
    @AroundTheWorld
     
  7. Reeko

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    there is no line to draw for me...they don't bother me

    I know exactly zero transgender people in my life

    them wanting to be referred to via whatever pronouns does not affect me one iota

    there is not some epidemic of trans people causing issues in public bathrooms

    so when it comes to this topic

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  8. leroy

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    I draw the line between myself and the ignorant culture war baiters. The ones that think there's some threat to themselves or their family. There isn't. They're just afraid of their own shadow or they're projecting.
     
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  9. AroundTheWorld

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    This sounds good, and I agree with what you wrote, but almost all of the options listed require you to actively change your behavior to accommodate members of that group. And some of the activists demanding that all that be made mandatory are quite aggressive about demanding that change from you, or else (you will be canceled, etc.).
     
  10. FrontRunner

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    Count me among the people who simply don't give a ****. I'm secure in my masculinity, and gays, transgenders, etc. are absolutely no threat to me.
     
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    I'm going to keep watch Dave Chappelle specials
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    [​IMG]
     
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    That's funny coming from a guy that's devoted hundreds of posts and countless hours to the topic of transgenders and Paul Pelosi's underwear.
     
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    shrug…I really don’t care about that at all
     
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  16. tinman

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    if your daughter was in this contest, she would be pissed she lost to a 300 pound dude
     
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  17. Reeko

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    my day went on as normal when I found out about that

    I can’t sit here and fake care or be fake outraged
     
  18. Andre0087

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    Yep, pretty the same opinion here...doesn't affect my day to day in the least. Don't care...
     
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    Having transgendered friends and students this issue does affect me personally and is probably why I have the positions that I have.

    I don’t consider trans people to be an abstraction either as a threat to my morality or as an oppressed minority to be reflexively defended. They are people and as much as all of us would like to be treated with respect and tolerance.
     
  20. Andre0087

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    @basso you can take him out that equation...
     

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