Some are skeptical about getting a conviction on impeachment. And, it might not be feasible. But, I can also imagine a scenario in which Republican congressmen start defecting and it turns into a massive domino effect. If a good case against him is presented and the succession look secure (that is, Pence isn't implicated), and you have colleagues flipping "on principle" it might end up the safer position for many Republicans to dump him. Trump is a constant liability, and he's doing a lot of things Republicans are very uncomfortable with. They've already got their tax cut and their SC nominees. And Trump represents an excellent scapegoat on which to heap anything bad that happens in the next couple of years. If a recession comes, President Pence can blame Trump's disastrous trade war policies. Government debt? That's Trump's decision to increase spending, cut taxes and not replace the revenue. Healthcare crisis? Trump failed to get a proper replacement for Obamacare. War with [fill in the blank]? Trump put us on this road. He has mostly outlived his usefulness and is probably more valuable out of office than in office. The one use left I can think of for him is that they may want to pass immigration reform before booting him. The fallout from Republican xenophobia is definitely something they'll want to pin on someone else.
that's what they said about Bush 42, when his overall popularity (not just among the Republicans) ~ 90%. Alas, he lost re-election to a relative unknown Dem Gov from Arkansas
The best chance is the 2020 elections, which is a 50/50 proposition. Die in office since he is an old fat ****? 1%. Impeached in 2018? 50% (same odds as the Dems winning The House) Kicked out of office by the Senate before 2020? 10% Resign? 10%. If Trump thinks he needs to save his brand, ... Indicted for pre-Presidential crimes? 10%. Though I do expect the state of NY to go after Trump hard.
As a reminder of all of trump's ongoing legal troubles: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...utin-helped-trump.292218/page-5#post-11870539 edit: which is missing the 12 indicted GRU officers, bringing the count of Mueller indictments/pleas to 35.
I hope that it is soon his Lies have just been to much everything has been someone else fault to him i say.
Your gal Kamala is telegenic enough, but is quite dull as a speaker. She is the very epitome of identity politics, chosen by Soros and the big money Dems as being reliably in their corner. Interesting to see you being nostalgic about Reagan who was the beginning of Trumpism and the alt right. I would predict Bernie will defeat Kamala or whomever the corporate Dems put their hopes in. The question is will the corporate Dems stay home (they love to preach "unity" but only if it is with their positions) and just be content with their Wall Street and big Pharma board spots.
I somewhat agree with this...the Democrats to be pushing issues and policies forward, no matter if they are going to lose out on the votes, it show a concerted effort to try to change. But to be honest, the DCNP and those superdelegates are not worried about that right now, but changes are abound, because they are almost as unpopular as Trump is and that's hard to do.
if he's still president after 2023, something has gone terribly wrong and/or Mcdonald's is not as deadly to the human health as first believed.
I'm not nostalgic for Reagan, thanks though. I do pity anyone who has to go through dementia. Hence, "bless him." We'll see on Bernie. It's an uphill climb anytime anyone wants to usurp a private club from the sidelines, but I could vote for him certainly.
If Bernie were the candidate I'd vote for him; his heart is in the right place (whereas Trump is a medical miracle, a living heart donor). But Bernie is just a taaaaaaaad too far to the Socialist side of things for me. Just don't know who the Dems will settle on in the end.
Glad to hear it. I voted for Hillary. It will be a blow to the big money Dems if they can only give $2700 to Bernie and therefore will not have the typical sway over him like they are used to having due to big PAC money over Democratic politicians.
It would be healthy to give that musty old machine a good swift kick, yes. On that we agree. I will always wish that Bernie had stayed "in" the org and tried to change it more often than once every four years, but I'm sure he has reasons beyond convenience and purity. Or I hope so anyway.
Well known candidates with long vetted records are complete poison in today's game. Dumping someone on the field with full donors Dec/2019 is the way to go.
I think if it’s a free and fair election with no interference in Michigan, Wisconsin, and few other states, 2020 should be an easy win for the Dem candidate over a badly beaten up Trump over these next 24 months. In just two years in office Trump has- -become an un-indicted co-conspirator to a crime -taken major action to ensure healthcare costs sky rocket and coverage goes down (Just wait till Oct/Nov when people start renewing for the first time during a Trump affected renewal period) -hurt rural workers with unnecessary trade abuses -shamed America by fumbling summits with the worlds worst dictators And that’s just a start. Campaigning against him in the general election is easy as hell. Trump hasn’t had anyone really on the attack other than maybe Avannetti. Everything else has been reliant on taking a media story out there and letting it air out for debate. The DNC has rightfully focused its efforts on winning local and state elections which is the smart move. Again ... there will be another 24 months of Trump scandals and we haven’t yet seen Trump at his most dangerous and desperate. He should be easy to beat in 2020 and if the Dems win back the House and have more control of the Senate potentially, you’re better off neutralizing Trump and letting him finish out his term. Also they should NEVER have to impeach this guy. All they have to do is take control and go after emoluments. Force a scenario to make Trump choose between his businesses or the presidency. He will never give up the Trump brand and will walk.
Other than at Fox, I also think the media approach to Trump in 2020 during his campaign will be entirely different. They won’t be covering his rallies, won’t be hanging on every tweet, and I think theyll profile his challenger way better that Hillary. I think he will still be the talk of the news of course but it will be entirely different than it was in 2016.
Why would his voters turn? The stock market? States like Michigan and Ohio are only getting more conservative. The question is why wouldn't his voters vote for him. Not why won't you.
Pretty much everyone who studies the polls and the data around politics, has shown evidence that the Republican base has shrunk quite a bit since Trump took office. You might be right in a way that Trump is still favored in the key electrical states like Ohio which could help him win again in 2020, but it’s pretty clear that Trump would lose the popular vote by a significantly greater margin than in 2016 just given the fact that the left is energized as hell, and the Dems you would think, would give voters a better candidate in 20 by far. But your point is going to be key for Dems in 2020.... what are we doing for those key swing states to make those Trump havens more likely to vote dem. The answer is probably healthcare honestly. I think the healthcare debate will be even bigger and a big stain on Trumps presidency after the renewal period this coming fall. Nothing should be more motivating than your own health. Even if you love Trumps white grievance politics.
The ACA is a long way from being universally accepted. The problem with getting everyone on board is old Republicans have insurance. A few anecdotal stories about ridiculous hospital bills isnt enough to sell it
