When will the JVG haters start their "Fire Rick" Chant?

SF3 would still go back to rockets

 

Steve Francis would have still been here and except for a few flashes, Bonzi has been a no-show so far. And Yao assuming a leadership role? Good leaders lead by example and all I see is the same Yao who is still turnover prone, still not aggressive enough, and in this season REGRESSED. And guess what, it was that "terrible" JVG defense that got us to 6-1 in the first place because it certainly wasn't the offense that was winning those games.

Ths jury is still out on Adelman, but his vaunted offense has been a complete failure so far.

 

You know it hasn't even been 20 games right?

Gundy's offense was a bigger failure after 4 YEARS.

 

JVG was the best couch I never played for

 

You drop everything on JVG. Are you still a fan of Yao and Tmac. They also were up 2-0 in two playoff series. Shouldnt you have dropped your loyalty to them as well.

You were fiercely loyal to Vspan. A guy who did nothing in Houston, and bolted the US after one season. Even after he left you kept saying you still felt he was the answer to the Rox PG problems if he had been given a chance. So dont question other people's loyalty, when yours dont exactly make sense either.

Adelman has had 18 games. That is not enough time. But I think everyone can say they expected more at this point. Even if it wasnt the 9-9 record, but you would hope the team would be showing improvement on the offensive end. I dont think the offense looks any smoother today then when the season opened and that is my concern. To make matters worse, the defense had undoubtedly worsened over the course of the season, so yeah, I miss JVG and his defense that at least gave us some wins.

 

Here we go again...It's ALL the coach's fault!!! JVG was the only reason this team is considered a "failure" over the past 4 years (although leading this team to a 52 win season when both Yao & Tmac both missed major time because of injury is a peculiar definition of failure). Let's see by February I expect to see the same posts from you only with Rick Adleman's name instead of JVG. Sometimes you really amaze me DD. Just because you and all the others who OD'd on the red koolaid believed that this team was championship timber simply because you got all excited over Morey's off season moves does not make it a reality.

 

I think we are a playoff team but I think we will get in as a 7th or 8th seed. It's gonna take a long time to get Adleman's systems to mesh with the Rockets and we may have to make a few trades along the way.

 

Same here. I have no regrets about Van Gundy being replaced by Adelman. I enjoy Jeff's comments on the tube, so that's a plus. Adelman has a proven record, and given healthy players (and a new starting point, may the Fates bless us!), he will show why he's here. It is still early. Although I've seen it time and time again, and wonder why we aren't all dead from criminal assault given the knee-jerking here after a loss (or a win, for that matter), I have faith in Rick A to bring us to the 2nd round and beyond. Given healthy players and a good dose of pine, or a new home for Alston.

 

Before JVG took the helm, when was the last time the Rockets made the playoffs?

Going in against the 'superior and deeper' team against the Mavericks, how did the Rockets fare? Took the first two, and eventually lost in Game 7. We pushed them to the brink, and was close to pulling off the upset.

Last year, the Rockets won 52 games. 52. In the toughest division in the league. The Rockets faltered in the playoffs, but the Rockets just didn't have an answer for Boozer and the pick and roll.

Yes, the offense was stale under JVG, but we knew what we were gonna get at least. A defense that would at least keep the Rockets close, in games.

JVG gets canned, and our savior RA comes into town.

Everybody expects a new offense, and so far, we haven't gotten it yet.

Same starting 5, more talent, but so far, .500 ball.

To not like JVG is one thing, but to say he was a failure is ludicrous. JVG brought winning basketball to Houston, something the city lacked for a looong time.

The jury is still out on RA, and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

But so far, call a spade a spade, and RA has not lived up to expecations.

Not even close.

 

I'm not ready to say fire Adelman but I'm very disappointed in him so far. The uninspired play, his slowness to adjust the starting lineup, his slowness to change playing rotations and the bad offense are all on him. So far, so bad. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

The excuse that he's experimenting is running out of steam. It's time to make some decisions, kick the players in the pants and start winning.

 

Sam Fisher still owes me a kumite..

 

A Freudian slip?

 

I never was a JVG fan and admit some of that had more to do with his prior history. I never liked the ugly Knicks style of play and thought it was very ill suited to the Rockets. I didn't like that even though he talked about loyalty to team and players he walked out on the Knicks. As long as JVG was the Rockets' coach though I wanted to see him succeed though but I honestly feel that he took the Rockets as far as he could take them.

Rick Adelman's Rockets are still very much a work in progress and as tough as it is I think we need patience. I have no strong opinions about Adelman either way and I'm still neutral about him. While I am frustrated with his continued trust in Alston I do like that he is trying new things. If you look at what he did in the last Suns' game you could see alot of changes to the lineup and different ways to get Yao open. Since these things are new and Adelman is making changes on the fly it should be expected that the results will be somewhat uneven but I like the fact that he is trying to actually come up with solutions as a coach.

The problem that I had with JVG is that he insisted the Rockets do things his way and only when he got very comfortable did he allow the Rockets to play in a way that worked better for the players. Adelman has taken the opposite approach where he started out with primarily JVG sets and lineup. That paid off for awhile but as he saw things bogging down and the limitations of what JVG had done has been now working in his own sets and also experimenting to see what works for this team.

 

In my opinion, Adelman is off to a very bad start, sticking with last year's lineup is just inexplicable. He gets a C- so far, and a F by AllStar break if this continues. AND, I am starting to have doubts about the Yao-TMac combo, it appears to be going nowhere. I am actually getting bored with this team. With few exceptions, they are passionless and predictable. I think TMac has just decided to win the scoring championship and be done with it. His "celebrity on tour" routine is getting tiresome. Frankly, I am trying to discern who really "cares" on this team.

 

RA so far this year against 15 WC teams, 3 EC teams = 9-9

JVG last yr at same point: 12-6, WC teams 10, EC 8
2005-6 JVG: 6-12, WC Opponents 9, EC 9
2004-5 JVG 7-11, WC vs EC again 9-9
2003-4 JVG 11-7, WC 12 vs EC 6

JVG 4 seasons first 18 games 36-36.
averaged 10 WC opponents, 8 EC.

JVG always took some time to get the engine tuned up to his specs. I think RA deserves some time as well, especially since he is using some players brought in to operate in a JVG environment that don't seem to be doing as well in an RA offense.

Remember that JVG eventually lost his dictator power over player acquisition once the team physicians got overloaded and tired of working on broken down old Knicks. We actually drafted two players this year who may contribute in the future!

I think Morey and RA will bring this ship around with some playing time for this team running RA's schemes. Kinda what was said by a lot of people about Halloween. Now everyone is upset?

 

Hi senior, sorry for telling you you are wrong, as wrong as your seniority. There's not long run Rox. if Rox cant get a title before TMac's back break down and Yaos older than 30, better reconstruct now. Rick A is a sh*tty coach. JVG is way much better, the difference is just like Jordan and kirk snyder.

 

LOL, I like JVG more than I do RA, but comparing JVG to MJ and RA to Snyder is pretty egregious. RA and JVG have both earned valuable reputations around the league. Kirk Snyder is a nobody.

 

FIRE SHANE BATTIER!!!!

 

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