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When will the JVG haters start their "Fire Rick" Chant?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Texas Stoke, Dec 1, 2007.

  1. bingfei236

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    strongly agree!!!!!

    if JVG has lineup we have this year, 55+ win




     
  2. fuzzy88

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    JVG is too stubborn and has no creativity. He would continue to have a hard time winning a 7-game series. No way in hell I want to go back to JVG.
     
  3. northeastfan

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    I'd rather we chant, "Donaghy"
     
  4. R0ckets03

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    Wow. Way to lump everybody who was not a fan of Gundy's coaching as people who simply disliked him. Gundy had four years here and the results speak for themselves.

    Petty nitpicking? It might be that to you, but my team failing to make it out of the first round, blowing historic series leads, running out players who don't even belong in the NBA, watching pathetic offensive (actually downright ugly) basketball, and all the negativity surround Gundy himself was not "nitpicking".

    Not that I give a flying **** what you think, but I think Gundy is an excellent commentator and analyst for ESPN and I am sure he is a decent human being, and if I saw him at a bar I would love to buy him a drink. The dude is basketball crazy and extremely intelligent. I could talk basketball with him for hours. But for some reason all of this did not translate onto the basketball court.

    4 years - 0 Championships
    4 years - 0 First Round Victories
    4 years - 0 improvement in roster

    For me it was never Gundy the person, it was Gundy the coach. I can't say the same about some of you Coach Gundy lovers. Get your collective heads out of his ass. He is gone because he failed to produce results. If Adleman fails to show results in a couple of years, you are damn right I am going to be screaming for his ass (maybe sooner if we keep running Reefer out there :mad: ).

    I am not a GOF
    or YOF
    or TOF

    I bleed Rockets red. I get depressed after every loss. I cry a little every time I realize we haven't made it out of the first round in over 10 YEARS. I feel like shutting myself in a room and going on a m'fing rampage after every m'fing pathetic loss.

    But I am still here!

    Your ass can keep whining and moaning and b****ing about the fact that Gundy is gone and drink your ass to sleep now little boy. Then wake up and hope Gundy has found another coaching job and start cheering for that team.

    Me personally, I will be on here forever (or at least till Clutch bans me permanently). Why? Cause I am a fan of Rockets and winning (as oppose to nitpicking).
     
  5. itstime

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    rockets03, how can you say it didn't translate on the court? he went to the finals with the knicks. it wasn't him, it was our horrible roster and match up problems. this year we have a new system with the wrong players. everyone here is comparing apples and oranges when they compare the two coaches like this. personally i prefer van gundy, bc as even tmac said, they were always prepared.
     
  6. R0ckets03

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    Well I am all ready to throw him a parade and grant him sainthood cause he led some Knicks team to the Finals in a strike shortened season like a million years ago! :rolleyes:

    Again...

    4 Years - 0 First round wins
    IMO we did not show one iota of improvement in those four years. Still the same old Rockets.
     
  7. coolzh

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    maybe you should coach this rocket team :rolleyes:
    and Suns should fire their coach too because they could not even win a western champion title in few years with best PG and 2 times MVP in the league, 2 all star players and the best 6th man.
     
  8. Impper

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    I really don't care how boring people thought JVG was, because boring winning basketball is always going to be funner to watch than losing, no matter how you go about it.
     
  9. YallMean

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    imho,jvg did a fair job with the rockets. Every cocah in the league respected him, which you can just tell. to me, we should've extended him for maybe just 2years. I thought we were on the right track. This coaching change to me set us back. And in the long run, in terms of tmac and yao's window for opptunities, it is not good for the rockets. But it has been done, just have to be patient, season is long, and we play for the playoffs, not regular season.
     
  10. Mr. Clutch

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    He sure as heck had more creativity on defense than Adelman.

    And on offense, at least we pounded the ball to Yao.
     
  11. kwng

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    Well JVG is a good coach but his offensive scheme is just to rigid and has been
    exploited by opponent during the playoffs. We won 2 first playoffs games and to lose in in 7 games and the opponents adapted after 2 losses and started to have
    an upper hand. If you want JVG, you need to have someone like JVG (disciplinarian coach) but is adaptable and offensively good like Popovich.
     
  12. ivanyy2000

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    JVG has to go because four years he has done nothing in the playoffs.

    You bet Rick Aldeman won't get a free pass either. But I will at least give him one season before I make my judgement.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    You're asking for consistency from DaDakota which is like asking a two-year old to read Tolstoy. Not going to happen.
     
  14. blastaway

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    The "FIRE RICK ADELMAN" chants will start no later than the Allstar Break unless Rick Adelman:

    1) Benches Wafer
    2) Starts Scola
    3) Produces a better offense
    4) Wins at least 60% of his games by then (50/50 like now then just listen)

    Rick's defense is not going to ever be JVG's, so he better pick up the offense and make the game more entertaining. JVG should only come back to the Rockets if he is assisting RA, or RA is assisting him (doubt it). Maybe that is the only way either of these two coaches will have deep playoff success again in this league. They are becoming outdated with their styles.
     
  15. Panda

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    People saying that JVG would've done better with this team is forgetting one basic thing, there wouldn't be Steve Francis and Bonzi Wells on this team with JVG on board. Now put down that big pipe JVG had you smoking for four years, and start to believe the truth: Talent matters and so do offense!

    And with JVG jumping up and down Yao has been a mute donkey and a playoff underachiever in the past four years, with Adleman being laid back Yao finally has the freedom to take on the leadership role, showing off his temper on the court, making speeches in the press, things like that.

    The remnants of JVG coaching is exactly what's wrong with this current team, scrubs start and good players got less minutes. Once RA figures out that JVG sucks, quit using JVG's sentence-of-death starting lineup and this team will go off.
     
  16. blastaway

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    EXCELLANT STUFF MAN! Preach the truth!
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    LOL - uh huh,...yeah right....

    Consistency to me is that I bleed Rockets red blood, and have no allegiences to anything else outside of that.

    JVG is dead, killed by his own inept coaching.

    Later gater !

    DD
     
  18. R0ckets03

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    Seriously. I for the life in me fail to see the life long love some people have proclaimed for a coach that in four years led us absolutely nowhere.

    His coaching style was okay for the regular season. But him and his style gets exposed in the playoffs.

    The dude has no creativity or imagination on offense. Fails to counter when other coaches make changes. Was stubborn as hell with players and that is not good overall for the Rocks.
     
  19. Angkor Wat

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    haha, anyone else willing to pay pay-per-view money to see DaDakota and SamFisher duke it out?
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I would crush him between my mighty butt cheeks.



    As for the topic at hand, I too don't understand the JVG loyalty, he won NOTHING here in Houston, and failed being up 2-0 in the playoffs, not once, but twice.

    He couldn't counter an adjustment in game and his vaunted defnese gets carved up over a 7 game series as teams recognize the rigidity of it and find the weaknesses and exploit them.

    Sure, it works well in the regular season where teams don't scheme against a particular style, but once the playoff starts....POP goes the balloon.

    JVG will NEVER coach the Rockets again, and the organization is far better off because of that.

    He did his job, to the best of his abilities, he just isn't a championship coach.

    The jury is still out on Adelman, and if he clunks it up all year then he should be on the hot seat too.

    JVG had his chance, he failed.......at least in my eyes, of course other people may be just happy that the team gets to the playoffs and loses in the first round.

    I am of the ilk that I would rather the team take some lumps and grow stronger and be a force in the playoffs......they just have to find their identity and get a leader on the floor.....(probably Yao)....

    Once that happens, they will be fine.

    DD
     

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